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Are They Afraid of Us

While visiting some of our co-workers outside of the US, I had an experience this week that I assumed was similar to what I’ve had traveling in the States.

Woke up in the middle of the night to hear pounding on hotel room doors. Heard voices moving quickly up and down the hall. But couldn’t understand any words.

Got up and quickly checked to make sure that deadbolt lock was secure. Thought maybe someone was trying to break into the room of anyone foolish enough to open door.

The commotion and pounding on the doors continued until I recognized the voice of a co-worker. Opened the door to find the hallway filled with dark smoke and friend saying, “Quick there’s a fire. Grab your Passport. We have to get out!!”

Turned out to be a grease fire in the kitchen that was put out with a lot of mess but no major damage. We were moved to another part of the hotel and got back to sleep.

But have been thinking about how I misread the situation. There was no fire alarm or recognizable indication of fire. So, I was afraid of those pounding on the doors as they ran through smoke-filled halls trying to get guests out.

Have been wondering if that is some of what happens when others hear us talking and warning about the promised return of Christ.

Is it possible that they just hear frightening noise if they don’t also see credible indications of the love of God? Can we fault them for assuming the worst? Can we blame them for thinking that the noise is part of a scare-tactic to get their name, their money, or even their lives?

Could that even be what the Apostle Paul was getting at in his first letter to the Corinthians? (Chapter13) Was he giving us reason to think that, unless we are full of the grace and truth of Christ, we could be giving others reason to check their deadbolts– rather than following us to safety?


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  1. agapelife says:

    WOW Did you hit this dead on (no pun intended) or what.

    I need to do some soul seaching here, on my motives, my Christian walk, my attiutde.

  2. poohpity says:

    Hey Mart,

    I do not know if you have ever seen the movie “The Guardian” but at the end the student asked the teacher to tell him how many lives he had saved and the teacher was hesitant to tell him. To the student the stories of the teachers accomplishments had circulated and he wanted to be like his teacher and save as many as he did but the teacher responded with the number 23. The student said that he had heard it was around 200 and the teacher replied son 23 is how many I lost. I thought about Christians we talk about the numbers we have brought to the Lord but we never talk about how many we have caused to turn away because of our behavior. In reality it is the Lord who calls those to Himself and gives us the privilege to wash their feet. This was a very thought provoking post, thank you.

  3. stehan says:

    What a challenging and thought provoking question. Really has me thinking…

    Reminded me of a book Published not too long ago by The Fermi Project, called UnChristian, which deals with the views most ‘outsiders’ in the States have of ‘the church’ and what we as Christians can do to change that perception.

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts and perspectives – I thoroughly enjoy this Blog! By God’s Grace, keep it up!

  4. SFDBWV says:

    Many years ago I heard a commentator speak about christianity in India. He said that when Ghandi had been ask,” why Indians didn’t embrace Christianity with the same fever as they do so many other religions? His answer was simply, “Because of Christians.”
    If I had to choose a belief about being christian soley based on the behavior of the majority of people who call themselves christians, it would indeed be quite difficult to join such a group of hypocrites.
    I am not as world travled as you Mart, and it is one of the things I have enjoyed acout watching “Day of Discovery”. You have shown that there are polite and curtious and well, nice people where ever you go. If treated with the respect and love we ourselves want to be treated with.
    If the only thing I knew about Musulim people where the images and actions I see on the news, I would be filled with anger and distrust at them all. And I would be wrong.
    When a person takes on the mantle of calling themselves Christian, the awsome responsibility of representing Christ comes with it. How well do we then represent the one we are to present to the world?
    History clearly shows that wars and much suffering have been done in the name of Jesus. Our own small experiance has shown us that many people who call themselves Christian are anything but, Christ like. Because they are afterall, human. Paul said the nature of man is evil. History and experiance proves out that statement.
    1 Corinthians Ch 13, vs 1thru 13. a much quoted verse of scripture. Yet we find it difficult to live by this standard in our own homes. Jesus lives by it concerning all people everywhere. We are to follow his example and not our own “nature”.
    Though I know I am not perfect, the one who is in me is. and it is through his grace that I have any tolerence and love in me at all. I pray for God to strengthen me and make me a better man, not for my benifit, but that I may be the man he wants me to be. A better witness for him.

  5. BruceC says:

    Got nothing against a good “fire and brimstone” sermon to shake some folks to their senses; as long as it is done in a loving manner and it is full of God’s grace and mercy. We need to show the love and grace of Christ in our lives, our actions and our words also. If we point out sin let us not do it to condemn the person but rather to show how it is destructive him and what path of forgiveness the Lord has provided. It’s a fine line we walk as there are always those in the world ready to point their finger at the church as they did at Christ.

  6. kaliko88 says:

    It is possible that with the message delivered that way many people just think it’s a ploy. But, I also know that there are many people out there trying to spread the message of God’s love and they all have their own style and method. They all need to be heard, because while they won’t reach everyone, they will reach someone. I have an online friend who is moving away from his faith, relying instead on science and logic. I’ve sent him the same book that helped turn me back with it’s logical approach, yet still he questions his faith and doubts. What worked for me simply left him with more questions.

    Similarly, I’ve been going to my church long enough now that sometimes it seems like I’ve heard a sermon before, because my pastor is covering a subject he’s talked about before. I listen anyway because he may have discovered something new, or found a new approach. And even though I’ve heard the message before, the message isn’t just for me. I always know that there may be someone else there who needs to hear it, who maybe has never heard it. We all need to keep trying to be disciples in our own individual ways. As long as we also live out what we are saying, showing God’s love, the message will do some good. It won’t reach everyone, but if we say it often enough we just might reach the very people who need to hear it.

  7. rokdude5 says:

    I think if we, all of a sudden, heard that last trumpet, we would be pounding the doors of those who are still lost whether it be friends or families. The urgency of a kitchen fire caused the staff to be pounding on the doors.

    What would have been the reaction had the staff gently knocked? Most likely people would be more likely to open their doors even those who didnt understand the language.

    The point is we could go around Bible bashing the lost to repent (and some may respond to that) or we can gently walk our walk and minister them. Like Phillip said its our walk that impresses people the most.

  8. Abate says:

    Some a couple of decades back, a believer shared that people are drawn to Jesus because of either of the following three “C”s: His Character, Compassion and Content. I think we too can draw people by our Christ-like character and compassion. That is what is obvious and attractive to many. But the content of the message of Christ is very important too. However, the content of the message could only be properly and effectively conveyed through the channel of good character and compassion.

  9. Your Love Inspires says:

    I am happy to hear there is a debate about self examination. Unfortunately, I must say that I have had more bad experience with Christians than good, and this is a reflection of our country today. Many blame the “liberal media” for our plight… “persecuted Christians” in an evil world. Make no mistake, there is much persecution of Christians in this world outside of the United States but here, for the most part… we create our own wreckage and drama, in this “Christian nation.” God Bless America has become a mantra of self rightiousness for many… at the cost of the lost through our actions and attitudes. Let us not be followers of deceptive teaching so we can regain our witness through our walk and not our talk, self serving motives, profit margins, political agendas or military action. As the saying goes… “What would Jesus do?” For those of us who are grounded in His Word… this should be simple and not open for debate. The seasoning “salt” comes to mind…

  10. nmass_00 says:

    Wow! This really has me thinking about my character and more so my motives. The appearence of a christian character with the wrong motives benefits no one. Daily I am trying to get myself out if His way so that I can be a vessel that He can clearly communicate through. Sometimes my flesh presents a problem for me in this effort, but I am not going to stop trying. I really wouldn’t want to be a stumbling block or detour someone elses journey in preparing for Christ return.

  11. sitsathisfeet says:

    This is a touchy subject for me, even within my own family and church. But we are always to be prepared to give an answer for the reason we have hope, in season and out of season etc. One time I was speaking to my grown son and I said that I didn’t know if someone went to church, or was a believer. And he sarcastically said , Oh they must be very bad if they don’t or aren’t, huh. Intimating that I was judging them – but instead of answering his question directly I began to speak about the reason I went to church, and the reasons I had hope in the Lord, times I had been away from the Lord, and things God had done in my life. My son who had not been attending church for some time, eventually came back to fellowship, and my prayer that he draw close to God, and God to him was answered. But it took many years, but each time I was given an opportunity I spoke of my hope, my forgiveness, the grace and blessings I had received from the Lord. Only if I was asked directly would I give any “advice” on what to do. I strongly felt this was what I was to do. In many instances in the Word, the people who are healed and saved go about by compunction telling what God did in their life to the whole countryside and towns, anyone who would listen. My prayer would be that we would be such people, exhibiting the Love, Mercy and Grace of our Lord and what he has done for us.

  12. daisymarygoldr says:

    Grace’ is speaking the ‘Truth’ with ‘Love’…that was seen in Jesus talking to the Samaritan woman about her sins (John 4). There is no need to thump and bang on doors…persistent knocking on the doors is His job, not ours. Our duty is to stand for Christ who is the truth, to reflect the integrity of that truth in our lives and at the same time show that selfsame grace that we receive from Him.

    Are they afraid of us? Of course yes, if we keep shamelessly stretching our arms to beg them for their money instead of giving them what we have been richly blessed with in Jesus Christ.

    BTW, the frantic fire scene and its typical commotion may not be taken lightly because that’s exactly how things will play out when some of us will have to be literally snatched out of the flames of Judgment (Jude23)!

  13. plumbape says:

    I think this is so accurate!! The people in a church that are mainly long time members as in generations of family church members can be the most at risk for putting new members off and being hypocritical. More along the line of good intending Christians scaring off the nonbeliever with things they don’t understand, I think that is very true also. One has to understand that born again Christians are still sinners. Like Mart posted once about being a recovering idol worshiper. Of course to know that being born again doesn’t mean you immediately quit sinning, you have to learn some things from the bible, which is the catch 22 I guess. It also seems to me that it depends on the church one goes to and the individual christian as well as the nonbeliever. It just takes that small tugging of the strings of the heart combined with that right believer to lead them to seeking the Lord and the rest will be done by the Lord. We can’t beat ourself up over every detail or we might miss the basic John 3:16 message which is the GOOD NEWS. AMEN

  14. cctouch says:

    I think that we christians do sometimes unknowingly scare or turn people away from God. It is so important to keep a good testimony for God. But being human it is so hard for us sometimes to do that. Makes me shudder and feel ashamed to think that instead of drawing people to our loving Savior that I may have scared or turned someone away from seeking and accepting His gift of salvation. Isn’t it wonderful though that even though we fail miserably in being the witnesses we should be that He is merciful and faithful to give us new opportunities to further His Kingdom. I hope to keep this close in my heart and be more careful in my witnessing for my Lord.

  15. daisymarygoldr says:

    SFDBW, you quoted Gandhi- “Because of Christians”
    This is what is actually happening today in that part of the world “because of Christians”. Read it and give God all the glory…and oh yes, don’t ever listen to all the clever lies that the devil whispers into our ears… found this at ‘Gospel For Asia’-

    “Juria Bardhan, Gospel for Asia’s state leader in Orissa, India, knows what it’s like to be hunted by anti-Christian extremists bent on killing him. During the past two weeks, he has seen dozens of churches burned to the ground. He has seen missionaries and Christians beaten and killed. But during all these horrific attacks, Juria has had one thought. “We know the Lord is in control,” Juria said in an interview Thursday.

    Juria’s comments may sound naïve to Western ears, but to Christians in volatile parts of Asia, they ring true. They expect persecution rather than peace. They know that to follow Christ means choosing to bring more trouble into their lives. They also know that Christians standing strong in the face of such trials encourages others to follow Christ.

    “The encouraging thing is that the attackers themselves acknowledge that Orissa used to be only 2 percent Christian, and now it’s 28 percent Christian,” Juria said. “They don’t understand that by doing this, the church will grow by leaps and bounds, and this will cause thousands to come to Christ.”
    Juria said his pastors are not complaining about the abuse heaped upon them. Instead they are glorifying God for the opportunity to share in His sufferings. “Many of our pastors have said, ‘Even if they kill us, no problem. This will cause thousands to come to Christ,’ ” he reported.”

  16. poohpity says:

    I really do not think true disciples of Christ turn people away from the truth because hopefully they recognize who they are compared to Christ (no comparison). I believe the people that turn others anyway from Christ are those who just come to church on Sunday and have just enough knowledge of the Word to be dangerous. It is like trying to chop wood with a dull ax or shave with a dull razor the damage it causes. I believe those type of people cause more damage to their own credibility.

    There is something our Savior does to a person that is so unbelievable to draw us to Him and only to Him that we do not look to anyone for leadership but Him. I do have a hard time sometimes because I do tend to get critical of others walks with Him but then I realize the closeness they are missing out on and God is so big He does not need my help to get them to understand He is very capable. He also works with different people in different ways and in different time tables. This is a struggle I face a lot and if I keep my eyes focused on them then it isn’t on God and I begin to feel miserable. I like to feel loved and only he can bring the best out in me and others because I tend to mess things up a lot.

  17. SFDBWV says:

    daisymarygoldr, Yes I qouted Ghandi. As the question ask of us in the Blog is “Are they affraid of us?” The simple answer YES!
    Ever wonder why under Stalin the old Soviet Union forbade belief in God? Even sent pastors or believers into exile in Siberia.
    Communist china under Mao and lesser known figures also put an Iron grip and I may say still does around christian’s
    The list goes on…where there is an attempt to put absolute control on people, Christianity is forbiden and punished.
    Why? What is it about christians that frighten National rulers?
    Christianity has changed the entire known world, from what it was to what it is.
    Jesus said “The Truth shall set you free.” Rulers of the unchristian world do not want “Free” thinkers.
    One on one individualy we can be a good witness or a poor witness to any unbeliever. That alone may not make them afraid of us. But rather distrust us and whatever message we bring.
    From the tortures and deaths ordered from the early christian church on thru the Spanish Inquisition and eventualy the conquest of the “New World” many men came in the name of Christ and did horrible deeds. Jesus himself spoke of these men , by saying many would come in his nsme and be false Christs.
    Yes, many unbelievers and both affraid of us, and distrust us. So it is up to us to be better witnesses for our King, our Savior our Lord,, Jesus the Christ.

  18. swwagner says:

    A few thoughts:

    Every one of us is guilty of turning someone away from Christ due to our words, actions, or method. Thankfully, we are still allowed to serve the Lord anyway.

    The power of God and His word should not be underestimated even in the hands of the fumbling, immature, and over-zealous.

    We must be sensitive to moods, circumstances, physical ailments, energy levels, surroundings, and backgrounds (our own and others) when we say or do anything. Sometimes, even as a child of God, I am not able to receive or process or appreciate God’s word. How then can I expect an unsaved person to always respond favorably? Christ is the answer and we are “right”, but we must be “humbly right”.

    Church, just for the sake of church, is a big question for me. Faithful attendance, giving, or participating can signify a faithful heart, but not always…sometimes it is an excuse not to be of service out side the church building. If we only talk to each other, how does that win the lost? If we are always at the church building, when are we helping the lost? There is no room in life for “busy” work, “pretend” worship or meetings about meetings. We have to get out there!

  19. daisymarygoldr says:

    SFDBWV, thank you for responding but I’m not sure if I’m following your thoughts correctly. Gandhi’s quote speaks negatively of Christians…are you agreeing with it? If you insist that unbelievers are both afraid of us and distrust us, then how do we explain the rise in Christianity from 2% to 28%, in the news article that I cited above? Are you saying that those Christians in India are not good enough witnesses even when they have risked their very life to win others for Christ?

    Just to clarify my stand, this Christianity that is being referred to in the example that I provided is not about the religion, church membership or active participation in Christian programs and neither is it about serving the poor and helping the needy. This is about faith in Christ that leads sinners to be transformed into saints who then live a life that talks, walks and breathes Christ!

  20. SFDBWV says:

    daisymarygoldr, You are welcome. I am sorry I am not making myself clear to you. I will try and be short with a reply and hope you look in this blog.
    I quoted a Christian commentator who, as was I, trying to show that From an un Christian point of view. Because of the example of many people who misrepresented Christ by their own interpetations of bieng Christian. Because of the way in which Indians were treated by these people who called themselves Christian. Ghandi’s view of Christians were one of distrust. Distrust and ignorance can lead to fear. So in that quote of Ghandi’s one can see that “they” unconverted Indians, could be said to be affraid of people who call themselves Christians.
    This is in no way a negitive remark about Indian Christians nor Christians who are being persecuted all over the world. For me to explain why there is a rise in christianity in the News article you quoted, I would only say that it is the Holy Spirit who converts people to Christ. We only provide the “Good News” it is a willing heart that is able to recieve the Christ. I cannot either explain why there is a rise in Islamic practioners. Except that it is Gods will. Also while we present the Gospel to an unbelieving world we are watched our actions are observed.
    Once again I must reffer to the topic of the Blog. “Are They affraid of us?” If we are to believe that distrust and ignorance can lead to fear, than yes I think that many unbelievers can be affraid of “US”.

  21. daisymarygoldr says:

    SFDBWV, I get your point and yes you are right “that it is the Holy Spirit who converts people to Christ.” Christians may not always succeed in correctly presenting Christ to the unbelieving world, but He is still able to use all our human faults and flaws to work out His perfect plan. The unchristian world will have us believe that our actions drive others away from Christ but that should not discourage us to do what we have been commissioned to do. Despite our imperfections, it is Christians who share Christ’s love with others at the risk of even their own lives. He chooses to use us not because we are smart and good and sinless but because it seems good to Him to use frail earthen vessels to reflect His divine glory!Therefore, “…To those who are perishing, we are a dreadful smell of death and doom. But to those who are being saved, we are a life-giving perfume…” (2 Cor 2: 16)

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