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A Political What-if?

What if everyone who confessed to being a follower of Christ would agree to, and then to comply with, the following terms of political engagement?

To avoid denying our citizenship in the kingdom of God, and to reflect well on the real Leader of our lives,

  1. We will be so committed to truth telling that those who oppose us could say, “I don’t agree with you, but you have fairly and accurately represented my position.”
  2. We will give others reason to see that our political arguments and alignments are not merely a way to protect ourselves at the expense of others.
  3. We will not pass along scandalous rumors about political leaders or parties with the excuse that “this is pretty funny”, or “I don’t know if this is true or not, but here’s something that someone sent me…”
  4. We will not participate in a political strategy that calls attention to the faults of the opposition while concealing or denying its own.
  5. We will support our issues with honor rather with an anything-goes-in-war-and-politics attitude.
  6. We will not vote as if the future of a country or community is more dependent on its financial or military strength than on the character of its people.
  7. We will speak about the leaders and members of another party as we would want them to speak about us or our leaders.
  8. We will vote as if our responsibility to the Kingdom of Christ is more important than our civil responsibility.
  9. We will vote.
  10. We will vote with a determination to show by how we win or lose that, as important as this election may be, our lives are grounded in something infinitely and eternally more important.

And if we say, that’s idealistic nonsense, impossible to practice, and a sure way to use spiritual talk to surrender political defeat, what then are we saying about our values, our Teacher, and our political engagement?


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  1. Robert says:

    Mart,

    A worthwhile notion indeed but not all of them practical because of the outisde factors that will weigh in.

    Points 1 and 2 will invariably be in jeapordy because they are altruistic in nature.

    In practice, that which follows the clause “I don’t agree with you….” is typically another argument trying to alter your perception as opposed to an admission that you have accurately represented the other guys position. The only time, I’ve ever heard the latter statement is usually when the other person simply does’nt want to argue anymore.

    In practice, arguments, be they political or religious will always be perceived as protective. Not, perhaps, “protective of ourselves at the expense of others”, but protective of that perception which one holds to be true and is the basis for the argument.

    That’s all I have to say about 1 and 2.

    Now 6…..that’s a clever one. We vote for people to run our country based on that which they tell us while they are running for election. And so, by casting our vote for any one candidate, we are throwing support behind that person and essentially saying that their thinking is in line with our own.

    So I ask you then. Who was the last politician you voted for that kept their promises? You see, I can vote for someone whom I think has great chracter and moral values and find out later that the very same person frequents brothels, beats their children, voted for or against the war or whatever the flavour of the day is that sways opposite to your perception of “character”.

    Well now the perception has changed, yes?

    Maybe they no longer have the character I thought they did.

    Now, I know what you’re thinking…..the intent was there. I voted for whom I thought was of good character but that, Mart, is simply not good enough because it’s like stubbing your toe on the same piece of furniture over and over again but never moving it out of the way and it demonstrates the problem with point 6 as relates to politics in general.

    Point 6 is a Holy Grail. It is what we want and hope for and expect to get when we drop the ballot in the box. I’ll give it to you anyway, Mart. Yes, it’s a great way to vote and we should do it implicitly but in practice, it often yields startlingly contradictory results.

    Now you got me thinking about politics. Thanks Mart!

  2. Robert says:

    Paul Wooley addressed this same topic in his 2005 article in Conservatism entitled “What does the Bible say about Politics”

    http://www.ccfwebsite.com/archives/What_does_the_Bible_say_about_politics.pdf

    Now this article seems to support the same proposition that you make, Mart albeit in a modified sort of way but the intent is the same.

    It seems then, after reading Wooley’s article, that the point 6 you make above could become less of a Holy Grail if we frame it in a context of action as in, Christian values WITHIN politics and shaping policy directly as opposed to just the simple act of a Christian voting. This may have been your original intent.

    …and I still think points 1 and 2 are “iffy”

  3. Mart De Haan says:

    Robert, I appreciate your thinking this through with us.

    One thing I’m trying to consider is the price we will pay if we lose our integrity and credibility, as well as the favor of God– which is far greater than the sum of our votes– by adopting the deceptive pragmatics of those who are trying to win by spin and outright untruths.

    If that is how modern elections are won, doesn’t that say something about how much of ourselves to invest in the process…?

    Daniel and Joseph rose to favor within the pagan systems of Egypt and Babylon by maintaining their integrity and accountability to the Lord.

  4. sitsathisfeet says:

    I have been praying about my voting recently, and asking The Lord to give me insight and wisdom. I’m fairly clear on the propositions and think I know who I’ll vote for, but it is so interesting to hear people’s viewpoint, many who are looking to the world for the answers. I have a christian friend who believes one thing different from me and when I finally said I would discuss my opinions, he listened respectfully and then said Well I know you are praying about it and the Lord will show you who to vote for, not that I would necessarily vote his way, but that he was confident that the Lord would help me in my decision. Isn’t this how we are to approach everything, seeking the Lord’s wisdom, and to work out our salvation with fear and trembling? And no matter what happens we are to pray for our leaders and our land; 2 Chron 7:14 (NIV) If my people who are called by name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

  5. JRD says:

    And I raise the question to all.
    How does engagement in issues of social injustice and oppression shape your relationship with God?

  6. desert rose says:

    In this election I do not feel we have a real good choice. If they had a box which read “none of the above” I would put my vote there. This election we have coming up is critical and I agree with one comment, WHEN HAS ANYONE KEPT THEIR CAMPAIGN promises? Our family will vote for the best we feel best follows God’s principles. I believe our forefathers would be devastated by our country’s standards and morals.

  7. cherielyn says:

    Desert rose: In your last sentence, “I believe our forefathers would be devastated by our country’s standards and morals,” I couldn’t agree with you more. I think there is a reason why our country is not mentioned in the end times. I believe that our country will cease to exist as a super power and it will be for those very reasons.

    I am an elected local government official. I try to vote issues as the people I represent and God want me to. But, & it’s a big BUT – there are 29 other people on the board I serve on. It’s pretty hard to accomplish the right thing when you’re up against that many. There are only about half a dozen of us who vote the “right way” with no political agenda in mind, just to serve the people we represent in the best way we can with God’s help.

    The way things are going in our country I wouldn’t even consider trying to run for a higher office than I am serving in now. There are way too many people in the higher offices of our land who are in it for the wrong reasons. But, in my small way, I try to be a good citizen and try to be part of the solution instead of part of the problem.

  8. SFDBWV says:

    Wow Mart, Politics…..
    The problem with our attempting to have a man made perfect government, is sin.
    Until our King Jesus is here in the flesh to reign over the post tribulation world,no goverment created by man will be exempt from failure.
    Democracy only works when it’s voting people are intent on living moral lives and caring more about each other than about themselves. The Amish people have a saying,”Autonomy is not always best for the community.”
    The study of history I believe clearly shows man’s inability to govern himself. Sooner or later sin comes to the surface and spoils the best of man’s intentions. Where sin is, failure is soon to follow.
    When I decide whom to vote for, I try to find a person who best represents me. Or at least my way of thinking. So when I vote I look for a Christian and then attempt to see if he or she agrees with my political idiology, and moral convictions. I always think a persons stance concerning abortion, gives me a little insight as to their character.
    Of course they may indeed be lieing. Like a doctor or a lawyer, you don’t know what you have until after you use them. Then most often it’s too late.
    No, I believe that the statue of Nebuchadnezzar’s dream shows clearly that the governments of man have gotten worse and worse over time. That only when that stone supernaturaly is cut from the mountain and cast at the feet of clay, will our perfect government become a reality. The Kingdom of God, with Jesus on the throne.
    In the meantime we are in the world but not of the world. Our attempts to politicaly correct all the scoicial ills of this world will continue to frustrate the best of us.

  9. rokdude5 says:

    I wish we had more Cherielyn in office that we do now. Politics is not an easy field because the elected officials are supposed to voice their supporters or stand a good chance of losing them.

    One problem is that when a dollar arrives in the coffer, there are multiple hands reaching in claiming that its program is dire need of it. Granted there are a lot flaky programs out there but there are still a lot of other programs that are not. Again, one person’s necessary program even if its something that may be perceived as a “Godly” issue is another person’s idea of pork barrel.

    Recently I found out that Jehovah Witnesses do not vote since they feel that they should let God be in control instead of themselves. I may do that if its not clear to me how to vote. Of course, God will allowed who He wants in office whether it be a believer or not. He will use that person though it may not be obvious to us at the time like He did with the Pharoah just before Moses took the Jews out of Egypt. Rom 8:28

  10. Robert says:

    Mart, I think Cherielyn outlined it best in her 02:34 post and she’s doing exactly what needs to be done. She fights the clean fight from within.

    Despite the tactics that are used, we cannot let those that use less scrupulous tactics to win go unchallenged. We need to do what is right as Christians. We hold dominion over the earth and it is our responsibility to see that right is right. (Genesis 1:26-28)

    Your question though, still vexes me. I am not saying we should employ their tactics to win but we should hold them accountable for their tactics that they be judged for their deeds in office and in a Christians pursuit of office, the correct values should be upheld.

    To abandon the pursuit of office for the purposes of advancement of our ordained stewardship and responsibility of an towards Christs earth should be high treason in the eyes of Christ. The two concepts should embrace on another.

    Ok, look, I’m a Canadian. We just had an election. Did you know that in Canada there is no time for this nonsense of malignment from candidate to candidate. I mean, there is some but not a great deal because from the time that an election is declared, it must be carried out within 6 weeks and no more. We do not have to endure a year or more of rhetoric because as we all know….time obscures history to those who do not study it. In Canada, 6 weeks is short history; the candidates basically stick to facts and track records.

    Perhaps I am not adequately qualified to offer discussion in this subject. We do not share a common frame of reference, politcally. You are all in a difficult time right about now. Yes, Canadians watch CNN quite a bit and we care.

    I pray for you all. America has gone through difficult times in the past decade.

    Canada stands with you as we always have and will continue to do.

    This is your decision, fellow Christians, do what is in your heart but make certain that the history of your candidate of choice figures prominently in your decision. And no, I am not an advocate of either candidate. Let each reputation stand on its own merit. This is your country and your part of Gods Dominion. It is incumbent upon you to take care of it.

    It is his past beliefs and record that will dictate your future for the next 4 years.

    You reap that which you sow.

  11. 2007Jerseykid says:

    Mart,

    Let me preface what I am about to say with that I admire the ethic that you have espoused in this post. You bring a lot of good comments and I enjoy reading them.

    I am a former evangelical Christian but have felt compelled to disavow that title based on the manner in which so many evangelicals have conducted themselves in the political arena. I am sure that there are ample examples of this on the left, but what stands out most prominently to me is what self-avowed Christian Sarah Palin has done in this election. A bipartisan commission appointed before she was named as the VP candidate finds here culpable of ethical misconduct and she takes the position that she was cleared of all wrongdoing. In short she lies. How does her Christianity inform her public discourse? And yet any number of evangelicals love her because she is one of them.

    I prefer to be associated with no religious group at the risk of going to hell than to be with people like that.

  12. BruceC says:

    When I was much younger and in grammar school, I remember the day when the Supreme Court ended school prayer. School always started with prayer, a reading from the Old Testament (as we had some Jewish students), and the Pledge of Allegiance. My teacher said to another teacher that this was the beginning of the end for our nation. Unless reversed; I would have to agree. Some short years later the Court said it okay for mothers to take the lives of their babies. On a moral scale things have continued to slide and I don’t have to list the reasonas to my family here. The first thing I look for in a candidate is character; all the while knowing they are mere humans. Does the person support abortion/abortion rights; cloaked behind the PC phrase of “woman’s right to choose”. That one issue speaks volumes to me of a person’s character; even of those claiming the title of “Christian”. I look at that persons friends and confidants, what he has done or supported. I know that like others I too have gotten a little carried away with the political campaign and have to bite my lip.
    I also realize that no matter who gets elected, or what happens to our land; that God is always in control and His will be done.
    If we as followers of our Lord are to have an impact on the moral foundations of this country we first have to stand on the truth of the Word, do not be fearful or despair, to be Christ-like in all our ways yet stand firm in our convictions, and to call sin sin. And we need to pray hard and without ceasing. Let us do this with the grace and love that Christ showed to us. Let us never cease from doing good; for in that we will be doing right. Thank you Mart for this thought provoking topic.

  13. SFDBWV says:

    I am the Mayor of my small community here is West Virginia. For 36 years. I only mention it because it gives me a little credibility on speaking of the subject of elected politics. Our poulation is just under 500.

    The largest city is about an hour and a half from here. It provides our daily newspaper. The editorial pages is filled with both political and religious arguments almost daily. I have written several articles over the years, concerning both issues.

    I could speak for hours on the subject, and boor you all with local troubles abd frustrations. I won’t.

    There are many political groups who are against Christianity. Oh they have have fancy names to sound as if they are worried about yours and my freedoms. But make no mistake, they are against Jesus against Christianity first. They will sometimes allow the word God to be used but never the word Jesus in the public domain.

    Here in my community, I open every council meeting with a prayer to God the Father, through his son and our saviour Jesus the Christ. I organize a public prayer in our park at the Flag pole on the National day of prayer. AS well as every Memorial Day and every Veterans day.

    I do not do this in defiance of the Law of the land, but rather do this because I know the consequence of not doing it.

    Any people who abandon God from their government, or from their homes or themselves are headed for disaster. The record of the scripture is as clear on this as any subject. A people without God at the head, are doomed to fail to fall and to disapear.

    Because of sin, every good immagining of man is corupted. We bagan as a Nation of Christian people bent on the creation of a Christian Nation. Our forefathers knew all too well the consequences of abandoning God. Our political arena bears little resemblence to that of our founding fathers.

    The enemy that I have to contend with as Mayor here are the very people charged with bringing a better quality of life to all our citizens. The Federal and Sate governments are filled with special intrests groups that have their agendas attended to. Not the peoples.

    A democracy? I think not. If our country were a democracy, there would be prayer in our schools and the death penalty for crimes that require it.

    The problem is sin. Until sin has been subdued we will suffer in every area of our lives.

  14. daisymarygoldr says:

    A very dry and boring topic:( Never had the privilege of casting my vote as I have never lived in any one country long enough to exercise citizenship rights. However, I do pray for the election process and the leaders so that we can live peaceful and quiet lives marked by Godliness and dignity and the preaching of the gospel is not hindered. This is good and pleases God our Savior, who wants everyone to understand the truth and be saved (1 Tim 2:2-4).

    There is no such thing as Christians having dominion in this world….Jesus said “they will hate you and persecute you because they have hated and rejected me”. Just in case we are being too naïve, Paul a good Roman citizen was imprisoned and put to death by the government for preaching the gospel. Despite popular thinking of being a Christian nation this country is perceived across the globe as terribly Godless with some of its despicable abominations not seen even in those Christ-hating nations that are steeped in utter paganism!

    Therefore, being citizens of heaven (Phil 3:20) we rely on and “trust” Him alone and put no confidence in the arm of flesh because though man fails to keep His promises God never fails! I agree that as good law-abiding citizens we should vote to elect our government keeping in mind that regardless of the vote all governing authorities comes from God, and have been placed there by God (Rom13:1).

  15. swwagner says:

    A few thoughts:

    Laws and governments create order in society and reflect God’s design. Striving to have a good leader is the best we can do, until Jesus is “Lord of All”. At least during elections people start talking about what is right and what is wrong. We all are wrong about something because we are limited by sin and bias. The longer I live, the less I know! It is true that all creation groans to be delivered from the weight of all the bureaucracy…religious or secular.

    As long as the governments are run by man, there will be error, disagreement, corruption, and greed. Even the most upright, honest lawmakers are unable to correct every injustice because true righteousness does not come from laws. Rules, regulations and penalties are necessary, but they only show us our short comings. They make us obey but they do not change the inner man.

    Throughout history God has provided the right leader or catalyst to bring His truths to the attention of man. Horrible atrocities have been (and continue to be) inflicted upon the world by the ungodly, but also by those claiming the name of God. Believers and non-believers alike have been instruments of good to cure diseases, provide freedom, and bolster hope. God is in charge of our finite existence and He uses who He will.

    God is not surprised by our sin, our failure, or our disobedience. He stands ready to save, bless and heal when we turn to Him. The “government is on His shoulders” and He is big enough to handle the job. He will appear in His time, and “every knee will bow”. When that happens, the price of gas, the president of the United States, the bomb laden terrorists, global warming, and the credit crisis will be insignificant issues.

  16. Mart De Haan says:

    daisymarygoldr, you sure rise to a boring subject :-).

  17. daisymarygoldr says:

    Mart, Ok, this time you get to win…will take back what I said earlier, though it was not alluding to what you have written or to the other comments…. they are great as always. No denying the fact that this is a very timely and enlightening subject to be discussed in the light of the Bible. It is just that my feminine mind fails to be fascinated with ‘politics’ in general. Happy?

  18. plumbape says:

    LOL ;>) LOL I am, LOL

  19. poohpity says:

    I am laughing so hard I can’t stand it.

    The funny thing to me is also that those who will not or can not vote seems to have so much to say. If I recall my scripture it is satan who has dominion over this world but be of good courage because Jesus has overcome the world. We, I believe, are called to obey the laws of the government. America is one nation under God, by the people for the people. We are the ones in charge it is just the fact that not to many are aware of their rights nor do they choose to exercise those rights because it takes time and effort.

    Just FYI there is more than two parties and I have gotten so sick of all the rhetoric I decided to check out the unspoken party and I liked what I saw.

    So, if we do not like what is happening in this country do something about it or move to another one but stop complaining. We are so blessed and I am proud to be a follower of Christ and an American.

  20. JRD says:

    How do all you people get sin, abortion and second coming out of this question is really what is wrong with the way people look at elections.
    Wasn’t that long ago many children died all the time. Mothers died in child birth all the time.
    And how one can sin agenst an all loving, living God who is beyond any imagination of human conception that created all is really a joke. Man created good and bad. And the ones who had the gall, because they wanted to control others, said what is right and wrong is absurd. To think they can judge and be the judge of God.
    To call sin, is the only sin.
    What is the real vision of the canadate and do you want that vision is the experience of the journey.
    Just get out and vote.

  21. Mart De Haan says:

    JRD, sounds like you’ve had your fill of religious people trying to impose their will on others. Guess that’s one reason we’re trying to figure out how to follow Christ so as to help– rather than hurt– others in the process.

  22. drkennyg says:

    I say we (voting age citizens) should all vote and not wimp out on the responsibility. It’s tough to choose always but do your best and pray about it before you do. It saddens me that there is so much corruption in our political and governing systems. But I vote anyhow and pray that God will guide our leaders and that Satan will always get the short end o’ the stick in any political or legal decision that our flawed system comes up against.

  23. Ted M. Gossard says:

    I concur wholeheartedly and have been deeply saddened over the way that not only we deride those with whom we disagree, but how this derision impacts our ability to see clearly. It’s tough, yes. We do see through a glass darkly here. We need much more humility in the way we view our politics, as well as that of others.

    I have to say, I’m quite unhappy in some ways over this political season. Abortion to me has been the paramount evil for years- right or wrong, but for me to think that the Republican Party is “pro-life” is unthinkable. Now I got political, and I apologize for that.

    But we need to appreciate the different takes we have towards solving the common concerns we have, and we need to appreciate the different traditions within Christian orthodoxy from which we view them.

    Then I can bless how you vote, even if I don’t vote the same come November 4.

    But

  24. Ted M. Gossard says:

    Sorry about the “But” which somehow was not edited out.

    But that can lead me to say one more thing. What we do as God’s people in being the salt and light we are in Jesus, is more important than who gets elected or what party is in power, etc. Do we really believe that? If not why not? Where is our hope? And what do we think is our calling? Just some more thoughts for the stew.

  25. jopinion says:

    As a recent viewer of this blog and a first time commentator, I can’t recall a topic that has
    received so much feedback. Thanks Mart for initiating the conversation.
    I’m voting absentee so I have some time to think. I too discovered other political parties
    on the ballot and I have reviewed some of the platforms … much food for thought and
    prayer before I cast my ballot.
    Psalm 24:1

  26. RBC_Lyn7 says:

    Thank you for your statements Mart. We need more Christian media like RBC and BeenThinking. I am deeply concerned that some Christians just toss-aside our core values of what Jesus commanded us, especially during election-time. They will vote for any candidate who supports the “cause”. So if these candidates are not right for the job and don’t have the qualifications to work with others to pass bills for the “cause”, that is counterintuitive. It is heartbreaking to read and hear some of the name calling and labeling. Most of it is strongly exaggerated or just plain false. Documents like the Letter 2012, which I will not even go into detail about is deplorable. Some of these labels are provoked by the political advertising and rhetoric.

    All Christians, please remember:
    #1
    Matthew 22:39
    36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
    37 Jesus replied: ” ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'[b]
    38 This is the first and greatest commandment.
    39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.'[c] 40All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

    #2
    19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
    20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always,
    even unto the end of the world. Amen.

    #3
    1 John 4:20
    If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

    Christians should be uniting to win souls to Christ. Imagine the lives that may be saved if we used the political grassroots methods to contact people (organizing, knocking on doors, making phone calls, raising money, etc…). Pre-martial sex can be reduced, thereby, reducing abortions. We could prevent people from entering into sinful lifestyles. I believe homosexuality is wrong as stated in many scriptures in the Bible and I believe that aborting pre-born infants is wrong, although there isn’t any direct scripture about it. Psalm 139 is one of the most beautiful of Psalms, I believe, where David describes how God created him and knows him. If you are a person who believes that abortions should not be performed under any circumstance, then you are truly an anti-abortionists. I believe, a purist does not believe in birth-control in addition to being anti-abortion. Most people (including Democrats and Republicans) believe abortions should only be performed under certain circumstances as when, the health of the mother is at risk, rape, incest, or mental disabilities. To me this belief means “choice”. I’m sure that the majority of people are “pro-life”. I don’t know any “pro-death” people. So we should stop labeling and name calling. Reciting beautiful scriptures as Psalms 139 would go a lot farther to convincing someone than labeling and name calling. In addition, actually helping women before and after child birth. There are many women who have decided to give birth to their babies that are not being properly cared for. I have concluded from reading the Bible that God talks a lot about people who have been born, that we should focus on loving people and that hate is considered murder. I believe that sex should be reserved for marriage between one man and one woman.

    Working to solve these types of social problems has been commanded to us Christian individuals not the Government. We solve these problems by following Jesus’ guidelines – not our own.

    Thanks for listening.

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