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Working to Rest

It takes effort to be at peace with ourselves, with our God, and with others.

That may be one reason the New Testament author of Hebrews encourages us  to work to rest in the living Word of God.

Used to think that the reference to the Word of God as a two-edged sword referred only to the written word of truth. But I’ve been influenced by those who have encouraged me to look at the ideas leading into, and away from, the often quoted words of Hebrews 4:12.

A second look shows that when this text calls us to “the rest that remains for the people of God,” it quickly and maybe surprisingly moves from the “written” to “living word.”

If this is what is happening, it reflects the  close relationship between the Spirit, what is written, and the resurrected Son of God.  That would explain why the reference to the “two-edged sword” is followed immediately by the words, “There is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.”

So, in the case of Hebrews 4:9-16, sure looks to me like this text is urging us to work hard at seeing in and behind the written words of our Lord, God’s living revelation of himself,  and the work that he has done for us.

Where else can we find rest for our souls? What, or who else,  deserves as much attention, and effort, and patience,  to keep our eyes on the only one who offers to give us his mercy, and his grace, in our time of need.


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  1. SFDBWV says:

    Like so much of the living Word of God, “Rest” can have a river of meaning to each one of us.

    For me the immediate meaning is that I can rest from worry. That I need no longer to strain at how and why. I simply rest in God, trust in Christ and can be at peace and ease knowing that through all lifes struggles God is in control and I need not concern myself with the problems of the day.

    With trust comes peace with peace comes rest….

    Steve

  2. SFDBWV says:

    Thinking along the idea of “working” to rest, brings me to the thought that though salvation is a gift from God; rest has to be worked at.

    The work I think is that effort we put forth in letting go of “self” and the control of our destiny. To freeing ourselves of carrying all of lifes burdens by giving it over to the one who is able to give us “real” rest.

    Easy to say, way more difficult to do. But the reward is peace…

    Steve

  3. poohpity says:

    :-)

  4. Rick123 says:

    Rom 14:20 For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed [are] pure; but [it is] evil for that man who eateth with offence.

    Tts 1:15 Unto the pure all things [are] pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving [is] nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

    Psa 119:9 Wherewithal shall a young man cleanse his way? by taking heed [thereto] according to thy word.

    Eph 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

    Hbr 12:14 Follow peace with all [men], and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:

    1Jo 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

    Phl 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things [are] honest, whatsoever things [are] just, whatsoever things [are] pure, whatsoever things [are] lovely, whatsoever things [are] of good report; if [there be] any virtue, and if [there be] any praise, think on these things.

  5. rokdude5 says:

    I try and try to get every little morsel out of reading the Bible yet time and time again, I go to church only to get something more than I could glean out of the same passage at home.

    I know that Jesus rebuked a Pharisee for “…not knowing the Scriptures.” I also know that Jesus opened His disciples'”eyes” before He departed to Heaven.

    To me its akin to trying to understand my wife. I really want to understand her but “I just dont get it.” I wonder how many of us husbands truly understand our wives as much as we try to. I want to understand God’s ways and morsels of wisdom but for some reason, I only get what seems to be just the surface. I ll just keep on trying for His way is light. Act 17:11

  6. OGramps says:

    I think today’s post and the discussion we ae having also helps put a new light on what Paul says in Phillipians 2:12 whane he says “…continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling,”

    God Bless all,
    Steve

  7. mtman says:

    ROKDude5: I’m with you 100%. I wonder if we really need to get it! To me it comes down to trust and faith. Also the more I read and get input from other view points doesn’t seem to bring me any closer to the Lord. When I started out with complete and child like faith I found over the years that will pretty much git r done. The Lord is bringing me along at his pace and thats good enough for me. There have been some pretty far out opinions posted on this blog and I don’t feel threatened by any of them but when the smoke clears if you don’t have faith and trust in the Lord, then knowing all the lofty religious and spriitual thoughts isn’t worth spit in my opinion.
    Ask yourself – if you really did understand your wife would you be any better off or worse off than you are now? We have some pretty detailed thinkers on here but for me that just won’t work. If all these high thoughts don’t bring me the average guy closer to the Lord, its just a bunch of spit as far as I’m concerned.

  8. Rick123 says:

    Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
    Col 3:5 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry
    (If we are not working hard enough by faith to overcome sin, we are lacking, resting in Christ’s peace. And we become worry, bitter, doubtful, intolerant in many ways toward others.)Phl 3:14 I press toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. 1Ti 6:12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, to which you were also called and have confessed the good confession in the presence of many witnesses.

    Rom 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, [which is] your reasonable service.
    (Overcoming sin is not a good party, but very painful. But when we are overcoming sin, it brings forth peace and righteousness.)1Jo 5:4 For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world–our faith.

  9. GeeTee says:

    Good morning everyone. Still mid-morn here in PDST, and a beautiful one, indeed. “Working to Rest” can seem like a conflict of terms to a body for sure. But as I stayed after studying the Word the understanding became clear. To think that I could follow some set of rules and regulations in such a way that would be pleasing or acceptable to God and be worthy of His favor could never work. Anything or any way that I decided would gain His approval would only be counted as “filthy rags” in His sight. The commandments that have been given were not to show me how “good” I was if I followed them, but to make me aware of that which is detestable in His sight. The Law is good, and the Law is holy. But I’m not. The sacrificial system provided the ancient Israelites with a way to receive yearly forgiveness, and they trusted that system and the Temple as an exclusive system for themselves alone. But thanks be to God through our Lord Jesus Christ that we no longer have to “work”; for the work of living that system has been finished by our Lord. I believe the writer of the letter to the Hebrews was revealing to them(us) a step-by-step through that old way it was done, and making the comparison of the old to the new in Christ Jesus. The work has been forever finished and we enter the rest through Jesus. There is no Temple, there is no priesthood, there is no sacrifice. Jesus has become all those offices for us and we can rest in Him. He is the chief cornerstone of the Temple that we’re a part of. He is our High Priest forever interceding for us. He is the Lamb of God that expiates and propitiates for our sin. We are liberated from the letter of the Law. It is no longer written on stone, but on the flesh of human hearts. Thank you Jesus, thank you Lord. I no longer have to work for salvation, I can work out salvation. Led by the Spirit would have me working with God in an almost unconscious way. I no longer have to think about “What can I do for God?” I simply trust like a child that my Heavenly Father is with me throughout the day, and I can rest. Matt11:25-30 To carry that load of commands was unbearable and I could find no rest in them. Only in You, Lord Jesus. Only in You. Your yoke is easy and Your burden is light. I have been given rest in You. GT

  10. pegramsdell says:

    Good word GT. His yoke is easy and His burden is light. He said it is finished….so I can rest now. He did it all….I know that is easier said than done. If I believe that He hears me when I pray, then I can rest.
    It amazes me that God still loves me when I know He sees me as I really am. :)

  11. Rick123 says:

    Jam 2:14 What [doth it] profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be [ye] warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what [doth it] profit? 17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. 24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. 25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent [them] out another way? 26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

  12. gr8grannyjacobs says:

    Wonderful word’s today so encouraging. For me everything is about the trust and on the day’s I get that part right the peace flows like a river. I am not perfected yet but one day:)

    Just want to say hi to everyone and let you know I think of all of you but am mostly just up to reading for now. I do earnestly pray for each of us who visit here and feel we give each other encouragement.

    pooh Thank you for thinking of me in your e-mail. Hugs

    daisy The freshly picked bright and yellow Daisies are still beautiful as I planted them in my heart. Love

    Steve I haven’t forgotten Matt I am still a tad under the weather. Say hey for me.

  13. Laurielee says:

    The word “rest” has many different implications for me today; it was my last day of school for the summer…and I started a new habit a couple of months ago. On Friday nights, it is my time to rest. I let no one make plans for me and I let all the things go that I think I “need” to do. It has really made a difference and always good to look forward to at the end of the week. Steve(s) & GeeTee, I like the way you guys explain things…in a common, straightforward manner that I can understand. Mtman, you’re a pretty detailed thinker yourself at times!
    Though G-d gives us insights into the incredible layers of Scripture throughout our lifetimes, isn’t there somewhere that says to be careful of “secret” knowledge, or am I thinking of Gnosticism? I don’t have a Bible nearby at the moment. I just started John last night, so it’s been a bit since I’ve read through Paul’s letters. (Though I did read Romans 5&6 the other night, as per GT)

    Rick, Phil. 4:8 is one of my favorite Scriptures.

    Daisy&GT, I left a note for you on yesterday’s blog.

  14. Rick123 says:

    Laurielee: I think this is the passage you are referring too:
    Rev 2:24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.(KJV)

    Rev 2:24 Now I say to the rest of you in Thyatira, to you who do not hold to her teaching and have not learned Satan’s so-called deep secrets (I will not impose any other burden on you):..(NIV)

    Satan misleads people with his so called deep secrets( secret knowledge ). We can see this in Christianity with a lot of false prophecies that don’t come to pass.

    God does reveal secret knowledge:Deu 29:29 The secret [things belong] unto the LORD our God: but those [things which are] revealed [belong] unto us and to our children for ever, that [we] may do all the words of this law.

    Dan 2:19 Then was the secret revealed unto Daniel in a night vision. Then Daniel blessed the God of heaven 20 Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his: 21 And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding: 22 He revealeth the deep and secret things: he knoweth what [is] in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with him. 23 I thank thee, and praise thee, O thou God of my fathers, who hast given me wisdom and might, and hast made known unto me now what we desired of thee: for thou hast [now] made known unto us the king’s matter.(This great image, had to do with the power that God was going to give unto the king himself-Nebuchadnezzar, and the coming future world kingdoms. The Rock that smote the great image on it’s feet is going to be Jesus, at his second coming. The Rock(Jesus) became a great mountain(great government), and filled the whole earth.)

    1Cr 2:10 But God hath revealed [them] unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

  15. GeeTee says:

    Some good posts up-page. I agree that “rest” can take on a number of different meanings at just about any given time. Sometimes something as simple as being able to fall asleep at night without hashing over all sorts of stuff that doesn’t really amount to much is a real rest for me. Being caught up in the cares of the world and wondering how everything is going to finally work out can put a strain on. The economic woes we’re in as a nation. The apparent disintegration of morals we see all around us. What some think to be the collapse of our nation because of this, that, or the other. Health issues and concerns we face in our lives. If I allow myself to lose focus of my relationship to the Lord Jesus these things can overwhelm me. I feel helpless. And alone. What can I do to try and help alleviate the suffering that people experience on an ongoing basis? What “works” for me is that when I’m out and about I share my testimony of how God in His grace and mercy has delivered me from the penalty of my sins, and is now working in and with and through me to bring honor and praise to the Lord Jesus Christ. The opportunity to be a witness doesn’t always present itself, but I make myself available should someone come along and the Spirit of God empower me. I don’t drag the soapbox around and get up on it, I merely be willing to be used. Don’t try to get somebody saved. That’s not my department. What the Lord Jesus has done in my life is strong witness to the power of God, so I plant a little seed and leave the saving part to the Holy Spirit. The “rest” I’ve been given is the assurance that He will never leave me nor forsake me. And that gives me the peace that surpasses all understanding. There are plenty of times when I may get a bit overzealous to make something I consider to be important known, but it only takes some getting real still and quiet for the Spirit to whisper His correction to me. And I get up and brush myself off and start afresh. Wow! Sounds easy, huh! Easier said than done sometimes. But not this time. Thanx for you guys reproof and understanding when I may have(probably was) being the obstinate one. I caught little insinuations in the thread that were directed indirectly, and I’ve learned to humble myself and admit my mistakes. That old prideful thing, “I’m stickin’ to my guns” is bad politic, and can only divide. May everyone enjoy a pleasant evening. GT

  16. Laurielee says:

    Actually, GeeTee, I find you very relevant…you always make me think of something more…get the gears to start turning. What you were saying about “witnessing” for instance. I’ve always worn a small cross, since I was a child. No explanation, really, I just do. The thing is, when I’m at school or out and about, people start conversations with ME about it. I get the feeling that they think I’m “safe” somehow…especially when they’ve gone to classes with me for awhile. Last semester a young man with multiple piercings and arms completely covered by tatoos sat down by me when I had a couple of hours between classes and asked a minor question about what we were supposed to do in a class we had together. Then it was HIM that got on the topic of spiritual matters. We talked until I had to go back to class! We don’t have any classes together this semester, but he calls me once in awhile to ask my advice on different things.
    I just hope that my light shines in such a way to make people wonder what it is about me that’s different and draws them to Jesus…then I pray that He’ll give me the right words at the right time.

  17. laney says:

    Can everyone keep me in prayer.I had to go to Urgent care today.I’ve been in alot of pain since Thursday.The doctor gave me pain pills which aren’t even helping with the pain.He said my shoulderis strainedSomething about a rotator cuff.I don’t know if I have it spelled right.I know the prayers will work better than the pain pills.They are useless.Thanks everyone.

  18. GeeTee says:

    Stopped to take care of some things that needed to be done and was convicted about not being more specific in my apology to the neighbors here. Yeah, I know that the go-round I was engaged in here on the site was not a good thing, and I got carried away and all…but the debate was not with the bloggers, it was with Rick123 and I didn’t display Christ-like love or understanding. Rick123, I apologize for anything I may have said that was accusatory or detrimental to you and may have caused any physical, mental, or emotional discomfort. Forgive me. Laurielee: Always the encourager, you are. You have no idea how bad I needed a simple kind word, but you came through for me and maybe didn’t even know it. Thanks!! laney: Oh but I know all too well about rotator cuff. Ay-yi-yi! I tore mine throwing a baseball in ’78 and then tore it again in ’05. Still wracked with pain from the second one, and it’s in my neck, as well. Being an ex-addict rules out medication and I look at the pain as the repercussion and consequence for my not-too-smart choices all those years. My prayer is with you and for you. Make sure you stay sensible with pain pills that are prescribed. Highly addictive. The physician probably told you, but if he didn’t may I say, “If the instruction for dosage on the bottle isn’t adequate don’t think that increasing the recommended dose will increase the effectiveness. Tell the physician and maybe he’ll prescribe something else.” Opiates have different degrees of painkilling properties, and 1 of the right one is more effective than 6 of the milder ones. From experience I know that rotator cuff injuries take quite some time to heal, and if it’s a tear it will be very painful for 3-6 months. Not too much to look forward to, huh? Laurielee again: It’s cool isn’t it when that person that you’d never think would be asking those questions comes out and asks. That always reaffirms how wrong it is to have that preconceived notion about who needs or does what. That’s not for me to decide. We see the outward but God sees the heart and will use us in the way we can be used. I have a bunch of reading and homework to do so I lay this keyboard down. Rick123 Once again, I’m sorry for being a bumphead during the exchange. GT

  19. jlevrier says:

    To Mart:
    http://www.hymnary.org/text/lifes_railway_to_heaven
    Forgive me for the link. It is meant for Haddon Robinson and I do not know how to get it to him otherwise. Would appreciate your passing it along to him if it is not an inconvenience to you. Forgive the impropriety.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Philipians 1:27a (KJV) Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ:

    Hebrews 4:1-3 (KJV)1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. 2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. 3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

  20. BruceC says:

    Laney,

    I will keep you in prayer. I’ve had friends that have had torn rotators and they needed surgery. The injury is painful and I pray that it will cease and that you will be okay. God does things in strange ways.

    When I think of rest I think of trust in God and in the truth of His promises. His peace through stormy times and His victory over the world, the enemy, and death. For example; when I see what is going on in the world and in our nation it hurts and upsets me. But in my heart I know that we are told these things will happen before His return; and the promise of His return allows me to be at peace(rest). Jeremiah; seeing the sins of Israel abd the consequence of it all still had rest in God and peace thorugh His promises.

  21. SFDBWV says:

    GeeTee, You are, in my opinion, a welcome participant in our extended family of believers.

    Pesonalities are bound to clash even here on the blog. In using the topic lessons Mart has been trying to show us. The better part of valor is sometimes to not be aggressive but rather patient with others. While still attempting to present a clear and correct view of scripture. That can sometimes get very messy. All of us are guilty of defending our beliefs. You did fine.

    I think you have shown yourself to be a person of good character in attempting to make peace more than once. None should hold you at fault, nor do I believe anyone did. The case on that matter should be closed.

    Be at peace my friend.

  22. laney says:

    GeeTee, thankyou for the prayers.I’am feeling alot better today.I did not need to take a pain pill this morning.I just took 3 advil.The doctors office said I could take 4 with the pain meds.I thought that was way to much so I only took 2 advil with the pain pill before bedtime.I’am very careful with meds.I hate having to take any of them.I only do if I really have no choice in the matter.When you read the side effects on them who wants to use them.
    Your apology as far as I’am concerned is not necessary.I was just praying for you and Rick to put an end to it.I was afraid it would have been taking to far and you know the scripture A brother offended is harder to be won than a strong city and their contentions are like bars of a castle.I did not want it to come to that for either one of you.I also kept thinking our
    Lord is listening to this display of words going back and forth what are his feelings on this.I also agree with what SFDBWV said .

  23. laney says:

    BruceC thankyou also for your prayers.I left you a message on Marital authority.I don’t know if you saw it.The time was 11:28.that should help trying to find it.Thank the Lord I’am feeling better I know it was the prayers.

  24. daisymarygoldr says:

    “to work hard at seeing in…” means to believe.

    “…the work that he has done for us” means the works that were finished from the foundation of the world” (Heb 4:3)

    Through salvation in Jesus Christ God gives us rest from the oppression of our enemy, rest from the heavy burden of our sins, rest from the troubles of the flesh, rest from the bondage of death… so that we may focus on the work He has set before us.

    If we simply rest in the works He has already finished for us, then what is the work that we are still called to do? Jesus said to them, “My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I, too, am working.” John 5:17

    We must work for food… not the food that spoils but the food that endures to eternal life. Jesus said “My food is… to do the will of Him who sent me.”

    What is God’s will for humans living on earth?
    It is God’s will that none perish, but repent (2 Pet. 3: 9)
    Jesus came to preach the good news of the kingdom of God and we should also continue to preach for everyone to hear, believe and be saved.

    If we simply focus on relief works without doing the work of God (John 6:29) our works will not be recognized… “I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot…”

    So, by faith we who believed have already entered our promised land to enjoy eternal rest. However, there is a lot of work that still needs to be done. Jesus also said “My food is… to finish His work”. Jn.4:34. He did not rest till it was finished! We cannot rest till our work is finished… for God to bring everyone into that divine rest. As long as it is day, we must do the work of Him… Night is coming, when no one can work. “Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into His rest, any … should seem to come short of it” (Heb 4:1).

  25. daisymarygoldr says:

    gr8grannyjacobs, forgot to mention that those were wild daisies from the sizzling Southwest desert. Now that they are planted in your heart, I see them transformed into beautiful exotic ones! Who said that climate and soil do not make a difference? Take it easy and stay healthy… with lots of warm love:)

    Laney, you are in my prayers and I’m glad you are feeling better.

  26. GeeTee says:

    Talk about “work”? Here recently I’ve begun to go through the Scriptures again on a couple of ‘Bible in a Year’ sites. One of them starts at “In the beginning…..”, so that’s okay. Nothing like reading the fascinating history of our little place here. The stories of the patriarchs and their trusting that God would deliver on His promise. Joseph is still in Pharoah’s prison, as of today. I’ve read the beginnings of our planet a dozen times or more, and it’s just as wonderful now as it was the first time. The other ‘in a year’ program started for me in IIKings, and it’s IChronicles now. The lists of geneologies, divisions of territories, numbers of fighting men. Whew! Work, indeed. In past times(as now) I tend to blow through the lists and not spend much time with them. Never skip them, but don’t really study them like….? I’ve found the book of Leviticus can be a struggle, as well. All that minute detail of the Tabernacle and the service of the sacrifices seems like work to read. The customs of the Levites. All that stuff. When understood in the light of how those things foreshadow the Lord Jesus it can be informative, but tedious. I believe that when we hear the “call” and answer, it becomes our(my) responsibilty to read the Holy Scripture in its’ entirety. Even those long lists. Jesus gives a good account on ‘faith and duty’ in the 17th chapter of Luke6-10. When the servant came back from working all day his master didn’t tell him to sit down and eat, he expected to be served, and then the servant could dine. The master didn’t thank the servant for doing what he was supposed to do. The Lord instructs us to do likewise. When we’ve done what we do we understand that it was our duty. The Kingdom of God is served in even the smallest of ways and it’s not up to me to decide what those ways are. A willing subject is the best I can do. There’s a whole lotsa things, and a whole buncha ways we can bring honor to our Lord, but the beginning of the story was the disciples asking Jesus to increase their faith. Increase our faith Lord Jesus. Increase our faith. “Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that ‘works’ in us, to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus to all generations, forever and ever. Amen.” Eph3:20,21 Praying for you laney. May you be comforted during these painful days. Wise choice where your meds are involved. I’m about outta breath here, so you all have a pleasant day. There’s “work” to be done and “rest” to be rested in. GT

  27. poohpity says:

    I think David Roper put it brilliantly this morning in ODB; As long as we have the light of day, we must work—not to conquer, acquire, accumulate, and retire, but to make visible the invisible Christ by touching people with His love. I have read the bible cover to cover many times, many ways, and many translations and have found that it all boils down to just what David said. If we rest in God’s word then it will result in works, not of our mouths but of our hands. If we are busy using our hands then we do not have time to use our mouths because folks are looking for examples to follow not vain philosophy to understand.

  28. Laurielee says:

    Daisy, Steve, GT, Pooh, some great posts! Laney, been praying for you last night and today. Glad the pain is letting up.
    An oddity; In thinking about it, the most physical harm I’ve received has been from doctors. Go figure. There are good and bad and those that just make mistakes. GT, I was an addict, too, but not in the way you might think…but does it really make a diff? A psych doctor had put me on some potent and highly addictive meds following a surgery in which I almost died because of a morphine allergy (I quit breathing, damaged my lungs). The results of the surgery was followed by a heavy depression. I took the meds for years and to make a long story short, I realized the toll they were having on me and those around me. I went to a physical doctor to lay out a “taper” plan to get off the meds. Because of the high dosage the taper was too quick…had heart problems and had to be rushed to Mayo. I didn’t know that withdrawl could kill! I now question everything I’m told to put into my body. Nothing stronger than ibuprofen for pain.

    Was laying in bed this morning contemplating “rest”. I’m thinking that there’s a spiritual and physical “rest”, and a spiritual and physical “work”. I’m also thinking that spiritual work and rest are ongoing with physical work and rest intermittent. I think that spiritual work and rest can be happening at the same time.

    Even the demons “believe”…is the difference spiritual faith, work, and rest? Many unbelievers work themselves to the bone and accomplish alot…but it doesn’t accomplish eternal value.

    GT, A very easy and unconfusing way to read the Bible in a year is to use the NLT “The One Year Bible” that has it broken up into 365 daily readings with each day consisting of OT, NT, Psalms & Proverbs readings. It’s very interesting how the old foreshadows the new. It’s a very inexpensive paperback…though, personally, the NLT doesn’t lend itself well to memorization. “My” Bible is an NIV Study (that one’s the one that’s been with me through spiritual blood,fire, and water (tears)though I only occasionally use the study notes.)…then I have a parallel, Jewish Bible, KJV, and others for comparisons which, honestly, I only use occasionally. The Chronological is interesting and useful, too. I could never keep with the printed “plans” very well.

  29. Rick123 says:

    We should be able to learn from Israel’s example. We should look back through the nation’s history with observant eyes so that we should not make the same mistakes. God’s dealings with ancient Israel gives us a grave warning: Those who think they could not repeat the same mistakes should take heed—they could easily fall into the same bad attitudes and conduct, and suffer the results.

  30. bubbles says:

    Just found/and have been reading the Scripture/thoughts and blogs. What a wonderful site! I’m so very thankful to our precious Lord that he is the author and finisher of our faith. I’m so very, very, very hubmled and thankful that our Lord Jesus died/rose again for me.It’s amazing that He offers rest to us. . . we don’t need to worry about anything. I received an email a few weeks ago. The writer said, “Believers trust the Lord for our eternal life, but often forget to trust Him for the daily worries while we are here on earth.” How convicting that was. . . It’s so easy for me to try to do things in my own strength, and forget to ask Him for help. What a wonderful Savior that wants us to depend upon Him, and come to Him for all that we need.

  31. laney says:

    I’am so grateful that Jesus is my high priest who can sympathize with my weaknesses and that I can come bodly to the throne for grace and mercy.I need all the grace and mercy I can get.I agree with what Bubbles said it is so easy to trust the Lord with our eternal life when it comes to day to day worries thats another story.Thank the Lord I’am getting better at coming to him first.Sometimes though I give him the burden but find myself taken it back.I hate when I do that especially since he has proven himself faithful to me over and over.Plus I know it displeases him.then I get myself under condemation.By now you would think I would get it that my life is going to be some sort of test to see if I trust him.Knowing that you would think I would find rest because my Father is going to work out good for my life to bring him glory.It is also vital for the saints in these perilous times for us to find that rest.LaurieLee I also agree with you about the physical and spiritual rest.

  32. sjd says:

    When I read Mart’s words today “sure looks to me like this text is urging us to work hard at seeing in and behind the written words of our Lord…”, I had trouble trying to figure out the “seeing in and behind” part. We are to be diligent in our study of the Word, and as we talked about the last couple days, to be quick to listen to the Word, and James reminded us to not just be hearers of the Word, but doers also. At times it appears we try to do too much with the Word, rather than just being obedient to what we already know. One of the biggest problems I feel happens, is when we do not look at the entirety of Scripture. We take particular teachings out of context, and lose sight of what certain teachings can not mean in light of other Scriptures. It seems that way to me when we were talking about marriage.

    I agree with Mart that it appears that we must look beyond the written Word of God to the Living Word of God, our risen Savior. I am always drawn back to the abuse we can get caught up in with academic discussions, and am reminded by the zeal of the Pharisees and how they got off track. The end of all our study and discussions should end up leading back to Christ.

    John 5:39-40
    39 “You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me;
    40 and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.

    I am thankful for the Word of God and the Spirit of God that laid me open bare, so that I saw my desperate need for my Lord and Savior!

  33. sjd says:

    In regards to resting, I am reminded of a man who was in our fellowship for a time. That was his favorite thought it would seem, and I appreciated much of what he said, because there is so much to rest in. Yet I was concerned with lack of expression of the opportunity to have this “rest” to others outside the faith.
    I am continually confronted by all the active words in the NT. We are called frequently to put on Christ, put on the armor of God, to make every effort, to preach, proclaim, admonish, love, testify, encourage……………. Our lives as Christians should not look like we are resting, that is inactive, but as confident in our Lord in the midst of all the chaos.
    Our resting in Christ and what He has done, is what allows us to be able to walk in the God ordained good works we were created to walk in. It is only as we recognize our inability to perform those good works, and realize that our Lord is able to and wants to do them through us. It is as we make ourselves available for Him to work. John reminds us that God’s commandments are not burdensome. Ultimately, that is because He has given us a new heart that desires to do them, then empowers us by His Spirit to do them. So even in our letting our light shine by doing good works, there is a lot of resting involved.
    But as someone mentioned, there is a lot of work to be done, and until I am called home, or Jesus returns first, I need to get off my couch, to “get out of the salt shaker”! Then watch and see what our Creator can still do! How can He “feed” the people around me today as I have them sit down for the meal?

  34. GeeTee says:

    Thanx Laurielee for the input on daily reading plan.But no thank you. I’ll stick with what I’ve started and ride it on out. I too, at one time had a number of different translations, but like yourself I found it hard to memorize when I was reading 5 or 6 different versions. The KJV was the copy I used for years and I memorized and thought in KJ. I switched to NASB for awhile but still thought in the King’s English when I recited. I still read and use an excellent Hebrew/Greek Key Study Bible with a superb Strong’s Concordance/Lexicon. But for everyday study it’s the NKJV for me. It’s close enough to the old KJ so that I can find what I’m lookin’ for if my thought is old-fashioned. Make sense? I’ve checked out the New Living and the English Standard online, but I’m okay with NKJ so I’ll just hold my pat hand(stick with what I’ve got). And oh yeah, I wasn’t trying to make it sound like I was confused, just that those 9 or so chapters of lists were kinda wearin’ me out. Good suggestion about Psalms&Proverbs on a daily basis, too. The preacher that presented the gospel to me and baptized me when I received it was a firm believer in a chapter of Proverbs a day. I took it a step farther and added 5 Psalms per day. Praying them. My appetite for the New Testament is ravenous. I’m not gonna sit here and say that I spend at least an hour(or2)a day in the NT, but I do. No real sequential plan, but I generally cover it all every 7or8 weeks. ” All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.” IITim 3:16,17. Can I get an Amen on that! GT

  35. Laurielee says:

    Amen! I very much understand, GT! My last one was NKJV, when it was time for a new one I couldn’t find one that was a study Bible too, so I got the NIV. I also have Strong’s. I’ve never heard of the H/G Key S.B., but I’m going to do some research. I sound like a geek and probably am. Books can get quite expensive, though. It’s not that I’m very bright, I just have a thing for books…natural born librarian! Put me in a dusty room of books and you may as well forget me!It’s just that my first love is learning THE Book. That’s why I like this blog…it makes me think!

    Gr8granny,Pooh & Laney, thinking of you and praying for you :D

  36. daisymarygoldr says:

    “look beyond the written Word of God to the Living Word of God”???

    Sorry sjd, I have not seen Jesus- the living word of God… not in dreams or in visions and had no supernatural encounter whatsoever. As much as I try I cannot look beyond the written word… I was taught the written word and it was the written word which I heard and believed. My faith is not because of having seen Jesus or because of the good works done by some Christian hands… but because of hearing the written word of God.

    It is the written word that penetrates even to the dividing of soul and spirit…
    it judges the thoughts and intents of the heart and it is Jesus who said “I am He who searches the minds and hearts”.

    I have heard something like that before…actually it was right here in this blog “to look at the word behind the word”. I don’t get it. I will see the savior face-to-face literally only in my resurrected body. Meanwhile, it is the written word that enables me to get a partial understanding of Him.

    The Pharisees did not go off track… they were never on track in the first place. They claimed they had a zeal for the Law of Moses but in reality they never believed his writings. It is the same with us today. We can be well versed in the written word without actually believing in it. That is why we are called to “hear and do”… not just hear and let Him do.

    Therefore, in my personal experience, the written word is the living word of God. We “receive the engrafted word which…is able to save our souls” (James 1:21) means we received Jesus, who gave us eternal life.

  37. BruceC says:

    laney,

    Thanks for the response; I found it.

  38. SFDBWV says:

    In re examining Mart’s topic this morning, I realized I had missed two other entities to be at peace with…Ourselves and others.

    This is very different than being at peace with God.

    Working at being at peace with myself is unfinished and it would seem for me has no end. For I am never at peace with myself. I am always challanging myself and pushing myself and in constant motion in my thinking. Whereas I may be set in many of my ways yet I am always trying to improve…my place with God and my understanding of others.

    One of the slower lessons I have come to learn in life; Is that I don’t really know all about other people I meet. Why it is that they think the way they do, feel and act the way they do? What secret pain do they conceal, and what are they really trying to say in the words and actions they take?

    I have come to learn in order to better understand people with whom I may disagree, I must remember that they come from a different base than I, and as long as we are seeking God together, this one thing may be the only thing we see eye to eye on.

    So I find that in able to be at peace with myself I first must be at peace with God and be tolerent, patient, and loving toward others; In order to be at peace with them.

    So in re examining the matter, I find Christ’s words speaking to me, love my neighbor as myself and love my enemies…..True peace and rest comes with forgiveness and surrender.

  39. sjd says:

    daisy,
    I have never seen Jesus either, nor heard His audible voice. I was not implying that we are to see His physical form now. I have a high view of Scripture and the inerrancy of it. I get concerned when others are not content with the written Word of God. Is the Word of God somehow inadequate? Is it not God breathed, and just as reliable as if He were standing in front of me speaking? Yes, it is! I do not need to see a vision or hear a voice. If He chooses to do so, it will not change my longing for the written Word. It is living! It is that “two edged sword”! Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God…. It is through His Word that I “see” Jesus.

    My point is that Scripture points me to Jesus. Without that understanding, all my knowledge of the Word would be useless. Because to know Jesus is to know Eternal Life. I am told to fix my eyes on Jesus, the author and finisher of my faith. I am to consider Him…. I in no way intended to look for some other kind of experience now. I am looking forward however to the day when we will enjoy His presence in a different way than today, when there will be no more distractions.

    We must recognize that it is in Christ that we can have life. I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God who loved me and gave Himself for me. Jesus is my Life. I have a personal relationship with the incarnate Word of God, and love to feast on every written Word that God has breathed out and has preserved for us by His grace. The Pharisees never saw Jesus for who He is. I don’t want to miss Him either. And I am thankful that the Father chose me so that I now know Him and more importantly, He knows me!

  40. Rick123 says:

    Jhn 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed [are] they that have not seen, and [yet] have believed.
    (There are a lot of people in the world that think like Thomas, they have to see Jesus in person and hear his voice to believe. These are the unbelieving people who are still under God’s wrath. Even in Christianity there are those that doubt Christ’s words, like Thomas, who had been with Jesus a long time. Jesus, throughout his word teaches us not to be faithless and unbelieving. But to be full of faith, and believing in him and his word. Jesus said unto Thomas, because you have seen me, you have believed, blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. Thomas saw and heard Jesus before and after his resurrection, so it is more blessed for them who have believed in him, and yet have not seen Jesus nor heard from Jesus as did Thomas. Abraham our father in the faith, was a great man of faith. He too saw Jesus and heard from Jesus as did doubting Thomas, but Abraham’s faith was not weaken, as was Thomas’s faith.)
    Hbr 11:6 But without faith [it is] impossible to please [him]: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and [that] he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

  41. cherielyn says:

    When reading Heb 4:9-10 – “There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.” – I get the impression that the rest referred to in these verses is our ‘final’ earthly rest, when life for us, here has ended.

    rokdude5, you said: “To me its akin to trying to understand my wife. I really want to understand her but “I just dont get it.” I wonder how many of us husbands truly understand our wives as much as we try to.”

    Just wanted to make a suggestion. My hubby & I attended a Family Life “Weekend to Remember” a year ago. We came away with some very good information & books. I would highly recommend reading, “For Men Only” by Shaunti & Jeff Feldhahn. My hubby found it to be a wealth of info on understanding the female mind.

    Also, for the ladies on here who might be interested, there is another book, “For Women Only” by Shaunti Feldhahn, which helps us understand our men. Very informative & interesting. I found my light bulb going on many times.

    Laurielee, you said: “….I just have a thing for books…natural born librarian! Put me in a dusty room of books and you may as well forget me!

    I believe we are kindred spirits. I also love books! I have a room in my house that is just my library. I estimate that I probably have over 600 books in there. Unfortunately, my book collection outgrew that room and I have several more small bookcases outside the confines of that room with probably another 100+ books.

    sjd, you said: “I have never seen Jesus either, nor heard His audible voice.”

    In the past couple months, some posts have brought to the forefront of my mind, several times, something that happened to me in the middle of the night back in late summer,1975. I DID hear God’s audible voice & I have no doubt that it was, indeed, HIS voice. Until now, I have shared it with only a couple people because I was afraid that people would think me crazy. I feel led to now share it with this family of friends – brothers & sisters in Christ.

    The details: A friend of ours took a long anticipated cross-country bicycle trip from California to New York. Enroute he stopped to see us and ended up having to stay several days due to bad weather, then continued on his trip. When he got 300 miles from his final destination he was hit & killed by a drunk driver. I was having very intense feelings of anger towards the man who snuffed out our friend’s life. Our local newspaper had published a story about our friend’s trip & visit with us. The local publisher was friends with the newspaper publisher in the town where our friend had been killed. Since they exchanged papers each week, they were each aware of the circumstances. Our local publisher gave us the paper that his friend had sent him which had the article describing the circumstances of the accident.

    Several nights after hearing the news of our friend’s death, I was awakened out of a sound sleep. I remember laying there, momentarily wondering what woke me up & thinking that perhaps we were having a storm & thunder woke me. Suddenly there was a very loud, booming voice; yet, at the same time the voice was very soft & gentle. I looked over at my husband & wondered why it hadn’t woken him up. It was then that I realized that only I could hear the voice.

    The voice then told me, “I want you to send that man a tract.” I resisted, but was given the same instruction. I still resisted, explaining how angry I was over it. I was not allowed to fall back to sleep. I finally promised that I would do it first thing in the morning. His voice then told me, “No, I want you to do it NOW!”

    I got out of bed and, in order not to wake my husband, sat on the floor in front of my dresser with a flashlight and began looking through my collection of tracts. I had quite a supply of them and it must have taken me at least a half hour to find the one that was most appropriate. I set it on the dresser and crawled back into bed. Again, His voice told me that it needed to be ready to mail. I again promised that I would do it in the morning. However, again I was not allowed to go back to sleep.

    I got back up, looked for the newspaper article to find out the name of the drunk driver and the town. Then applied a stamp to an envelope and addressed it to the man, in care of the jail in that town & inserted the tract and a short note about why I was sending it. I did not reveal my name or address.

    Once I was finished, I went back to bed and fell peacefully asleep. Nothing like that had happened to me before nor has happened since that experience.

    I often wonder what the outcome was and will only know when I get to heaven.

    Cheryl

  42. Laurielee says:

    cherielyn, So glad you’re back! Yes, my mother used to say that I did not READ books, I FELL IN!
    Though we all worship and believe in the same G-d, I believe that each person’s experience and relationship with Him is quite unique. He is amazing, isn’t He?

  43. daisymarygoldr says:

    Steve-sjd:) I am very much with you on everything you said in your last post. My comment was in response to “I am always drawn back to the abuse we can get caught up in with academic discussions, and am reminded by the zeal of the Pharisees and how they got off track.”

    I feel the lack of academic discussions within the body of Christ today, is the sole reason for spiritual ill-health of believers. It is sad to see even seasoned believers willing to talk about everything… movies, sports, talent shows, creation clean-up, politics, economy, books like the shack or the Lord of the rings, even personal stories… anything other than the written word of God… and the reason? God’s Word (written and living) offends both … us who take pleasure in our sins as well as those who are lost in their sins.

    So, now we have resorted to a more convenient non offensive approach of “let us touch people with our love”. To justify this approach, the Pharisees are quoted as an example, i.e. though the Pharisees and religious leaders knew the scriptures they did not know Jesus and did not show love. Hence, my point: they claimed they had a zeal for the Law of Moses but in reality they never believed his writings… and that is why Jesus rebuked them as hypocrites.

    Steve, IMHO it is plain ignorance of God’s written word that is causing whole churches/assemblies to drift away from the truth. Yes, you are right “It is in Christ that we can have life” but how did we even hear about Christ? It is only when we heard/read and believed the scriptures… which testify that Jesus Christ is God.

    I can show Christ-like love to my neighbors for 10, 20, 30, 60…years without ever telling them about salvation in Christ. Is that love and is that all to life in Christ? You said, The Word of God…laid you open bare for your desperate need for your Lord and Savior. How will the lost see this need and be saved if we are slow to teach or brush it all off as academic discussions?

    Again, these Qs are not directed at you or anyone in particular…these are simply to test our general thinking as the body of believers living for Christ in the 21st century.

  44. chalice says:

    When I consider this passage in Hebrews (4:12), including the verses leading up to and away from it, I am struck by the consistent nature of God. He is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. Just as his rest was available to those wandering with Joshua and, later, in David’s time and for first century Christians to whom Hebrews was first addressed, so it is for us today. God’s rest is available for those with faith and who work in obedience to the written and living word to enter his rest. For thousands of years, God’s rest has been available because our loving God is consistent.

  45. sjd says:

    Cheryl,
    I appreciated your sharing your story. Nothing should surprise me about how God works, and these days I try not to put Him into a box. Even though I have not had any visible or audible presentation, I have found that I must be obedient to the Spirit’s leading through the Word of God and as He quietly leads me in my spirit. There have been many times when I am sure that I am being prompted by Him to call someone, other times when He clearly reveals my attitudes or sin that needs to be addressed. Even though my faith may be weak, I realize I need to obey. He is able.
    I hear many people speak about visions, or dreams that they have had. Just because I have never had any, I can not deny their or your experiences. If I did have one I would still filter it through the Word of God. This is my clear authority that the Spirit uses in my life, and in all believer’s lives.
    I appreciate your love for the Lord and your testimony of your obedience even though you tried to put it off till morning. I too have put off my obeying, but am trying to be much more responsive to God’s leading in my life. Maybe you will never have another such experience, maybe you will, but you still have the Word of God that I believe is just as powerful, and just as alive. May God continue to use you for His glory!
    Steve(sjd)

  46. jondean says:

    God has offered his children “soul rest” for centuries, as the MAIN process TO HEAR HIS VOICE.

    Jesus said each of his 12 disciples could “find rest for your souls”. He said from his gentleness and heart humility their burdens would be made light and the covenant-yoke he offered would turn their weariness to ease.

    “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.” Matt. 11:28-30

    Since the Bible strongly demonstrates that walking in daily Soul Rest improves fellowship with the Holy Spirit, an introduction to this significant process is provided next.

    What is “soul rest”? Soul Rest,is a way of living in Jesus-like-peace in the midst of one’s daily life when it is active, hectic, catastrophic or when it is inactive, boring, dull, and unexciting. Here are two terms (actions) taken by our Biblical ancestors…to gain “soul rest”.

    Quieting my soul and Controlling my human spirit.

    Quieting my soul (mind, will, and emotion) assists me to develop “an ear to hear the Holy Spirit” as does

    Controlling my human spirit (conscience, intuition, dreams, visions, ability to hear the Holy Spirit).

    I should daily do these steps, as many have done.

    Finally, from my own walk of soul-rest in Jesus-like-peace, others often request, “Teach me how you do it!”

    It is the responsibility of every child of God, to exercises the fruits of the Spirit (self-control and perseverance) in order to calm down his or her own over-demanding soul and stop the un-necessary demands of the body; as well as to take control of his or her own spirit.

    This can be done by the powerful Holy Spirit-led steps of soul-rest, discussed next.

    Eventually, from my new “soul rest habits”, my own human spirit can hear the still, small voice of the Holy Spirit more routinely.

    Remember, “God with me” is the Holy Spirit within my heart to reveal the things of God to me regularly.

    My Daily Start-up Routine to get
    on the Ancient Soul Rest Path

    Step One: Morning Report In for Spiritual Warfare Duty

    1. I say aloud, at wake-up I offer my body as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to you Almighty God, as my spiritual act of worship
    2. I say aloud, at wake-up Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name Thy kingdom come Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. Forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever. Amen!

    3. I put on my spiritual armor by saying aloud:

    I will stay in God’s Truth (your loins girt about with truth)
    I will do what is Right (the breastplate of righteousness)
    I will stay in God’s Peace (feet shod with…the gospel of peace)
    I will recall God’s Faithfulness (the shield of faith)
    I will reason with the Mind of Christ (the helmet of salvation)
    I will speak-out and live-out God’s Word (the sword of the Spirit)
    I will always pray and listen for God’s Answer (always praying)

    Step Two: Apply My Daily Spiritual Self-Control

    A. I say aloud to quiet my soul In the Name of Lord Jesus Christ:
    + My soul you be balanced, quiet, and still
    + My Mind-thoughts, I take you captive. Instead of automatically doing what you are shouting, I choose to hear the Holy Spirit’s whisper of God’s truth about everything, all day.
    + My will power, I fix you on our Heavenly Father and his word to stay in His peace (72)
    + My Feelings, you stop flooding over me, be quiet
    + My soul, stay in SOUL REST paths, all day

    B. I say aloud to control my spirit In Lord Jesus Christ’s Name:
    + My spirit, you be active all day
    + My spirit, I now manage you
    + My spirit, you rule over my soul and body, and talk only with Holy Spirit
    + My spirit, you search my heart as God designed you to Amen and Amen!

    It has been a great joy to see many friends use these Biblical steps to walk in daily soul rest and hear the HOly Spirit more routinely.

    Is’nt our Lord Jesus Christ WONDERFUL!

  47. poohpity says:

    Yes He truly is!! Amen! Thanks for the lesson I will take steps to incorporate them into my life. Deb

  48. poohpity says:

    And do not forget to read the bible daily.

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