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Is God All We Need?

Whether God is all we need surfaced in our discussion of “Christian ideas that can drive you crazy.”

Seems to me that this question shows again how, by a simple shift of perspective, or motive, a statement can change meaning. All of us would probably readily affirm that, when God is all we have, we discover that He is all we need.

The Bible itself, however, seems to say that this isn’t the only way our God wants us to think. After proclaiming so many things “good”, He is the one who said to a solitary Adam. “It is not good for man to be alone” (Gen 2:18).

Solomon later gave reasons for two being better than one and described the evils that come from withdrawing from relationships for selfish purposes (Ecc 4:9-12; Prov 8:1)

We see something similar in our Lord. On one hand, he trusted only his Father and said he even relied on “food” that his disciples didn’t know about (John 4:32). But Jesus was also a person of many relationships. Were they incidental to his mission? Did he need any of his friends or enemies to fulfill his purpose? Did he need the little boy’s lunch of a few pieces of bread and small fish? Did he need his mother? What about his disciples?

Then there’s Paul. In his 2nd letter to Timothy, while imprisoned in Rome, he asks his younger friend, “Be diligent to come to me quickly; for Demas has forsaken me…Only Luke is with me. Get Mark and bring him with you, for he is useful to me for ministry…Bring the cloak that I left with Carpus at Troas when you come — and the books, especially the parchments” (2Tim 4:9-13).

It’s probably important to see Paul’s willingness to ask for help. Yet he goes on to show that, ultimately, it is the Lord he depended on. He tells us about a time when he was abandoned by others when he writes, “At my first defense no one stood with me, but all forsook me. May it not be charged against them. But the Lord stood with me and strengthened me, so that the message might be preached fully through me, and that all the Gentiles might hear. And I was delivered out of the mouth of the lion. And the Lord will deliver me from every evil work and preserve me for His heavenly kingdom. To Him be glory forever and ever” (1Tim 4:16-18).

The examples of our Lord and Paul seem so important to me this morning. I’ve had to come to grips with my tendency to act like I didn’t need others. Has been easier for me to give help than to ask for it. Yet, looking back my independent attitude probably bounced between insecurity and pride—covered by the excuse of not wanting to bother others—or maybe to be beholden to them.

Worst case seems to be that not acknowledging my need of others actually enabled me to withhold love—and limited my usefulness to God in the process.

Anyway, that’s the way the question is hitting me today. Wish you’d add to or challenge any of these thoughts so that we can learn together.

The sun’s coming up here. Even though it turned colder overnight, think I’m going to grab my camera and see if I can catch some of the return of Spring to Michigan.


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  1. foreverblessed says:

    Mart, there is a thought which is new to me: God does need us.
    Not that He needs us to live Himself, but He needs us because He wants life for souls.
    The very idea, that God would say to me: I need you to come in contact with people who needs regeneration, forgiveness, new Life.
    Pleas come near to Me more, so I can be more effective through you.

  2. pegramsdell says:

    Wow Mart, you are right on today. I can see that by withholding I am not useful to God. Wow! That’s it exactly. And pride as well. Not wanting to be indebted. But I do need others to help me and encourage me. I do that for others, but sometimes it would be nice to be encouraged too. I miss that.

    And most important is my need to spend time with The Father. Like Jesus did. He is the best example. So easy to skip that part, and go on with my life. Wait for a crisis then get back on my knees and beg for His attention. I should be giving Him my attention everyday. Just Him.

  3. christianne says:

    My life has led me to a place where God may not be all I need but He is all I trust and therefore, all I want. A sister nine years older who did not want me to be born because she wanted our parents to herself – she was always cruel to me…Twelve years of childhood sexual abuse at the hands of my father and a mother who knew but did nothing to stop it…A resulting demeanour which led to impaired social skills and further abuses by other children…Marriage to someone I knew from high school and my Anglican church choir who was a known pedophile to the priest who married us – this priest did not reveal this information to me as required at the reading of the banns of marriage…my husband defrocked by his first bishop for wrongs committed to the young girls in the confirmation class – I was ‘great with child’ at the time, however, the bishop saw no reason to inform me neither of the wrongs nor of the dismissal, which my husband covered by explaining ‘a change of work in order to earn enough to support a family’…sexual abuse of our daughter from the age of five until the age of eight…a divorce which became drawn out and ugly when the initial court gave him visiting rights alone with his daughter…my daughter’s refusal to bond or connect with me in the thirty-six years since that divorce, and her frequent accusations that I am responsible for everything that has ever been wrong in her life…present elder abuse in many forms at present (she is my only child) which have caused me to decide to leave my body to a medical school upon my death because she has demonstrated that she has no intention of honouring me in death as she has seen no reason to honour me in life.

    Through it all, I have been seen as unclean, and as one who disrupts or makes others uncomfortable with ugly truths in every organized denomination of the church where I sought comfort and hope…

    I have wandered lonely and unhappy since I was thirty-four, I gave my life to Jesus at fifty-one, I am a committed serving Christian volunteer and advocate for the hopeless and helpless, I am twice a delivered survivor of serious cancers, I am waiting for my Father to bring me home…Revelation 21:3-4

  4. shortyj says:

    I know I can’t do this on my own. Without God I am nothing. Is God all I need? Yes. God is trying really hard to teach me that everything is under His command, even the Ungodly. God led me during a time of fasting and praying to Daniel chapter 4. Through the scripture God taught me that what I have, the very air I breath can be taken away from me if God wants it to be that way. God has given me so many other Christian believers to encourage me and keep me in check spiritually. I am still clay being worked on and sometimes God uses the people around me to help form me. To God be the glory. Great things He has done.

  5. SFDBWV says:

    christianne, Wow…It would appear you need a whole lot of love. You need God, you need Jesus and yes you need some friends to help and encourage you. To support and strengthen you.

    As you stated, at the age of 51 you gave your life over to Our Lord. Christ will heal you, every where you hurt and every where you are angry. He will, because He has said He will. Of all the people who have failed you, be assured Jesus will not let you down.

    As for me, I have so many stories it’s difficult to choose which one applies. Mart answered the basic question in his statements above. God Himself recognized the fact that we need others in our lives.

    We need to be needed, we need to learn to it’s ok to need others. The latter being an especialy difficult lesson for me to have learned. But I have learned it.

    Once when all alone in the privacy of my own prayer place, I ask God for a wife…If you can accept it, I heard God’s voice as clearly as any I have ever heard. Maybe clearer.

    After a much impassioned plea for my desire for a wife…He simply said to me, “Am I mot enough?”

    I felt terrible… I had let God down. I had been unappreciative and failed in my love for Him. I wanted more than He had given me. I still smart from that experiance.

    God has since given me that wife, on His terms and in His timing and at the same time more than I had ask for.

    Just a couple days ago, my truck broke down a mile or so from home. I couldn’t quickly fix it, but a call to a friend and just a few minuets later he came to my aid and towed me home where I could take my time to fix my truck. A little thing for him a big help for me. I appreciated it and he loved being the rescuer. Though I offered to pay him, he would not let me. Knowing that when the time came for him to need help, he could call on me.

    Everything I have read in the scripture shows me that God uses people to get His will accomplished. He seems to prefer it that way.

    God shows us the way…He needs people and we need people.

    I have no understanding of a pre-creation existance of God. Knowing only that even in that existance it was always God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Not singular but plural.

    Mart I loved the pictures of the turkeys in the last post as well as the deer, and goose in todays. Only daffodils are starting to bloom here. We get geese here also but to see them here in my back yard is very very rare. Ducks, yes, but geese I only have seen out at the lake or flying over head.

    Steve

  6. poohpity says:

    Mart,

    This question has so many different areas but to me the simple answer would be yes, God is all I need, because without that primary relationship which is the author of my faith and all that is good the rest will not work. That being said I then can give out what I have been given.

    I fell into the trap of depending on others for encouragement, worth, love, and direction and have gotten bit more times than not. God did create people to be a reflection of His love to be His hands, heart, and feet. You know like God with skin on. However we are also taught to guard or hearts and He also gave us common sense (God sense) to walk away from those who would abuse this precious vessel.

    I believe that even Paul before starting his ministry had to take a step back and get grounded in God before he proceeded. Having a foundation of God and how precious we are to Him then we may be able to stand up under the fiery arrows of our adversary and man. It would seem that bad relationships come from those who do not fully understand that God is all we need they feel to be whole they have to be married even when it is to a person who will abuse them. This is not done intentionally but out of ignorance of how wonderfully made they are and deserve to be loved.

    I think we have to develop thick skins but not thick hearts. It seems thick hearts are the walls we put up to stop from letting people in and thick skin is the ability to not let everything people say or do effect how we look at ourselves.

    So I think with the foundation of needing God only we then can have healthy relationship with others because we do need each other and God needs us too. God put everything here to be used and everybody to be useful but not to use or abuse each other. We do need each other so very much because this is a hard life with out someone’s arms to fall into and to just walk through the struggles we face together. It is a shame that we have to make things harder than they have to be by being ugly to our fellow man.

  7. saled says:

    30 years ago, my husband and I built a log cabin with the goal of becoming self-sufficient. We didn’t want to have to depend on anyone for anything. During this time, we heard a preacher speak about the survivalist movement. He said it was wrong, that God created us to be interdependent, not independent. We’ve found this to be true, however it is a real struggle for us. I know that we have missed out on a lot of relationships, and have failed to contribute to the lives of people that God brought into our lives. We’re trying harder at this, but sometimes I get discouraged when I see the close relationships that some of my co-workers share, and I know that does not come naturally to me, like it appears to for them. Yes, God is enough, but Jesus said that he came that we might have life, and that we might have it more abundantly. I don’t think we can have that abundance without people.

  8. Regina says:

    Hello Fellow Bloggers,

    Great pictures, Mart. :-)Great topic too. …a few words on the subject before I go to bed. I do believe that God “is” all we need, since He’s the one who provides for our needs, but He provides for us through people. He created us to need one another; if we never needed help from anyone, I think we would probably become selfish and prideful (you mentioned pride in your post). Needing the help of others should/can cultivate humility in a person’s heart.

    A few more thoughts on some questions that you were contemplating…
    “But Jesus was also a person of many relationships. Were they incidental to his mission? Did he need any of his friends or enemies to fulfill his purpose? Did he need the little boy’s lunch of a few pieces of bread and small fish? Did he need his mother? What about his disciples?”

    I don’t think that the relationships that Jesus had were incidental to his mission. I believe that they were very necessary because He was human—God in the flesh, so He needed relationships with people just like we do. I think He needed friends and enemies to fulfill His purpose. Mary, Martha and Lazarus (to name a few)were His good friends; Jesus needed their friendship, just like we need our friends. Judas (Iscariot) was His enemy, and Jesus needed him to betray Him because His ultimate plan (as we know) was to give His life as ransom for many. I could say more and want to say more but it’s time for me to turn in.

    Blessings,

  9. xrgarza says:

    Mart,

    This topic is a topic that I have pondered the most lately simply because often times I feel like a lone ranger.

    Since I relocated from Colorado, it seems that all of my friends are in other states, and it has been tough to make friends here in California. I have made a few acquaintances but it’s not the same. Not to mention being a truck driver, I’m usually only home on the weekends.

    In Ecclesiastes 4:12 though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves. A cord of three strands is not quickly broken; you can do so much more for each other, the world, and the Kingdom of God by not being alone.

    It has gotten lonely, I praise God that I’m not a mopey type of person, I believe that in His time it will all change, but if it doesn’t He will still be my God, and I will do all that He ask of me.

    Xavier

  10. poohpity says:

    I was thinking this morning sometimes we do not want to get really close to people because they may find out what we are truly like and we then risk rejection. We can use the thought then of “God is all I need” for protection to stop us from developing relationships with others for fear of not being worth love.

  11. SFDBWV says:

    God made us to be social beings. If we think about it for a moment, people who spend their lives or time away from others are often though of as a little *strange*.

    I would ask the question; (of the question of the topic “Is God all we need?”) What is it that we need?

    We are not a tree or grass, that neeed only the rain and sunshine to exist and grow.

    Even some plants need bees and birds to aid them in procreation.

    If we study nature we also see many creatures that depend on others for life and for balance.

    The whole of nature in a balance of needing some part of the other for existance.

    Are we greatly different from ther rest of creation, in this respect?

    We know or at least we consider ourselves to be a complex creature, a combination of mortal bodies and eternal spirits.

    The mortal without understanding of the spiritual would make us more like the beasts of the field.

    We read in Daniel that God struck King Nebuchadnezzar to make him as the oxen and live like an animal until the days placed upon him were completed, then Nebuchadnezzar could realize it was God who controls all of existance, in Heaven as well as on Earth.

    God is all we need, but He wants us to need each other and by needing and coming to the need of others we are still in fellowship with Him. Taking from Himself from others and giving of Himself to others.

    When Nebuchadnezzar’s understanding returned to him, he was then able to realize his need for God.To give honor to God and then rule as king again, properly.

    So as mortal beings we need food and water and shelter. As spiritual beings we need the understanding of who we are and our place with God….God providing for both, but through others.

    We can’t have a right relationship with God without Christ.

    We can’t survive without the aid of others. We are all interdependant on someone else for some part of life.

    Is God behind the scenes orchestrating all events of our lives, weaving our actions and needs with others?

    If we believe the answer to be yes, then, yes God is all we need… But He uses a variety of means to supply all of our needs.

    Steve

  12. Regina says:

    Hello All,

    I’ve read some very interesting points-of-view in this blog, and I want to share a little more of my own. I was thinking about what Steve and Jorge shared. There’s truth in both comments. God did create us to need one another, but (sadly) we do have to be careful when we’re trying to get to know someone. I think I was completely grown before I truly understood my need for other people. I grew up in a dysfunctional family. I longed to have a family like the ones I saw on television (Leave-It-To-Beaver comes to mind).

    I have 3 brothers and 1 sister. My dad left home when I was 8 or 9 (he came back to visit periodically). My family (mother & siblings) and I rarely ever sat down to dinner together. We were allowed to eat anywhere and at anytime. I grew up craving the fellowship of family and/or friends. I didn’t have very many friends (1 or 2) due to the dysfunctionality of my home life. Because of God’s protection(as a teenager); my innocence/naivete, I didn’t end up on a path of destruction. I didn’t know what I needed back then. If I had of had someone that I could trust (someone trustworthy) to talk to, my life would have been so much better.

    I’m convinced that God created us to need relationship/fellowship and companionship with one another. However, it’s not easy to develop trust and lasting friendships with people, that’s why “true friends” are so valuable. I could say more, but I have to say goodbye for now.

    Blessings,

  13. Bob in Cornwall England says:

    If God was all we needed He wouldn’t have created Eve and the union of marriage.

    Saying that, I have been single all my life and really like being by myself, but that is not God’s “Norm”.
    Some people, like Samual, John the Baptist and many others were “set apart” for God’s own purposes and others had large families and created great wealth etc.
    At the end of the day we all need relationships to stay spiritually alive, either with God or fellow man.
    God being the essential one!
    Bob

  14. rxman says:

    Saled,

    I too have a hard time developing close relationships with fellow Christians. There was a time that I had walked away from my Christian walk yet some of the relationships that I developed then were closer than any relationship I had or have ever developed with a Christian friend,

    Not sure why this is. Is it me or is it them? Of course I was younger and unmarried at the time when I had those close friendships. Maybe getting married and having kids just doesn’t leave time for a deep relationship with another human being.

    Guess I will just keep doing what I am doing and try to go as deep as other will let me in developing those relationships.

    For some reason, I seemed to be more easily offended when other Christian friends do something I perceive as unfriendly or selfish on their part. It’s as if I expect more from them.

  15. refump says:

    I believe God to all about relationships. God created us to have a relationship with us. Did He need us? That question is sort of up there with, “could God create a rock so big he could not lift it”. I am not sure that it matters if God needed us- more importantly he choose us. In Matthew 22:37 Jesus replied to the question of what is the greatest commandment by quoting several passages in Deut. “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself.” It seems to me God placed a pretty high priority on relationships & there importance. They say that if a sheep is sick it will separate itself from the rest of the flock & go off by itself……..

  16. SFDBWV says:

    The very fact that we, all of us are involved in this blog, to me demonstrates our basic need for other people.

    There is something deep within us that causes us to want to share our thoughts with another person. Some need is somehow fulfilled when we just sometimes say whats on our mind and have a friendly ear to listen to our thoughts.

    We all can and I am sure do share our hearts and thoughts with God. But here we are talking to each other because we have a need to.

    I do also agree, that Christian’s too often judge everyone around them, especialy other Christians.

    I also agree that as Christians we are taught that how we judge is how we are judged.

    It always comes back to treating people with the same attitude we want others to treat us.

    Jesus didn’t give us easy rules to live by, it would not have helped us grow if he had.

    Somehow we have to do better in our relationship with others. It always starts with ourself. Yes we need to be causeous but stll open to trust. Sometimes we get hurt, but we have to learn to forgive as well as understand why another is the way they are. Usualy there is a deep personal pain behind anothers bad behavior.

    My appologies, I do not know which poet said it but they said a lot when they said “No man is an island unto himmself.”

    Smile at someone today, be friendly, and start the chain reaction of a pleasent day for someone else.

    Steve

  17. saled says:

    John Donne said “No man is an island,” along with “send not to know for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee.”
    When one of us is lost, we all are diminished.

    rxman, maybe having a family gives us a chance to be like the goose in the picture. He is not alone there, you know. There is at least one more, and maybe several chicks, nearby. He is watching while they eat, and then one of them will be the watchman while his friend has a chance. I have been blessed to have a family of geese in my pond and fields almost every spring. Wish all human families had such attentive parents.

  18. SFDBWV says:

    Thank you saled, afterwhile I will read more of John Donne.

    Steve

  19. poohpity says:

    I was thinking this morning how God has given spiritual gifts and abilities to be the body of Christ(1 Cor 12) to carry out His work. Is God All We Need? Oh my gosh that has more substance to it than originally thought and has my head spinning. If God created everything and has control over everything, this is a very deep subject but it all seems to come back to God whether we understand it or not there would be nothing if it were not for God for us to need. There would not even be us.

  20. Bob in Cornwall England says:

    Steve,

    I also think Shakespeare said ” no man is an island” seems to be a common theme and maybe a need in the soul?

    Bob

  21. Regina says:

    This is such a wonderful topic. You’re right Poohpity. This topic has my head spinning too. God knew that I needed Him before I realized that I needed Him (because He’s God), and He knew that I would one day realize my need for Him. You’re right too, Steve. A need “is” fulfilled when we(I) have an opportunity to share (in this blog) our thoughts with another person.

    You also stated that:
    “…we need to be causeous but stll open to trust. Sometimes we get hurt, but we have to learn to forgive as well as understand why another is the way they are. Usualy there is a deep personal pain behind anothers bad behavior.”

    I’m open to trusting people, even though I know that I may get hurt in the process; I’m also open to forgiving people (when I’ve been hurt/offended by their actions)as well. However, a relationship can be forever changed (never the same) based on the level of trust extended to a person.

    I recently had a friend who I really trusted betray me. She asked for forgiveness, and I forgave her, but what she did was so hurtful that it changed the relationship. I couldn’t invite her back into my inner circle of friends because I don’t trust her on that level anymore. She called me and we tried to interact (on some level) the way we did before she betrayed me and our interaction was awkward. Something was missing–trust.

    I agree with rxman too… when a brother/sister in the Lord does something extremely hurtful, it’s really hard to recover from that. It’s easy to forgive them because we know that that’s what the Lord wants/expects us to do. However, (in my opinion) the relationship will be changed, sometimes irrevocably. Further, sometimes we extend trust, and people betray that trust–not because of some deep, personal pain but because of jealousy, hatred, a desire for character assassination, etc.

    I believe that, as Christians (born-again), the Lord is our best friend. We need (desire) His friendship, and He desires our friendship. God knows that we need friends in this world because He created that need in us. I also believe that He wants us to be led by the Holy Spirit in our desire to extend friendship to people.

    Blessings,

  22. foreverblessed says:

    This is from a devotional, God calling by twolisteners on april 19:

    Life is a love story

    “He brought me to the banqueting house, and his banner over me was love.” Song of Solomon 2:4

    You need Me. I need you.

    My broken world needs you. Many a weary troubled heart needs you. Many a troubled heart will be gladdened by you, drawn nearer to Me by you both.

    Health — Peace — Joy — Patience — Endurance, they all come from contact with Me.

    Oh! It is the glorious way, the upward way, the wonderful discoveries, the tender intimacies, the amazing, almost incomprehensible, understanding. Truly the Christian Life — Life with Me — is a Love story. Leave all to Me.

    All you have missed you will find in Me, the Soul’s Lover, the Soul’s Friend, Father — Mother — Comrade — Brother. Try Me.

    You cannot make too many demands upon Me — nor put too great a strain upon My Love and Forbearance.

    Claim — claim — claim — Healing — Power — Joy — Supply — what you will.

  23. foreverblessed says:

    That was a devotional, that was not my own.
    But I found it beautifull.
    For one thing, God can use people that are wounded, and broken, because those are the ones that after having been healed by Him, can be of help to others.

    In the healing process we can be hurt again by fellow christians, when they do not understand what you are going through. That is true.
    But Jesus is the one to keep our eyes focused on, even when that happens. I know that when a christian person was difficult for me, it was as if Jesus was saying to me:
    Look to Me
    It took years to do that. I kept looking at what others are doing wrong.
    And that did not get me any higher, no only lower.

  24. orisweiner says:

    this is something I struggle with and have for years. I didn’t realize how proud I was of my “independence” until I broke my arm a few years ago and had to rely on others and ask for help. It was humbling and eye-opening. I was thankful that God allowed me to see this mishap and its deeper meaning in my life.

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