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Finding Our Way Ahead

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I woke up this morning thinking that I need to move the conversation along to something else, as promised, because of the frustration that erupted over our last discussion. Then I read the comments posted overnight, and heard the heart and reasonableness of friends who expressed that they felt I was just making the Bible too much of a challenge to be the “daily bread” that broken and needy people need for the moment, day, and night at hand.

Such honest thoughts made me do a double take because in so many ways I am not trying to treat the Bible like “an academic” but rather like a child who is asking for a bedtime story.

I’ve written in the past about a scene in  Walk the Line, a film portrayal of country singer Johnny Cash. There’s a conversation between young Johnny and his brother Jack that caught my attention. During a reflective moment, just before a tragic accident changes their lives, the boys are lying on their beds. Jack is reading his Bible when Johnny asks, “How is it that you read and remember all those stories in there?” Jack responds, “J. R., I wanna be a preacher someday, so I’ve got to know the Bible front and back. You can’t help nobody if you don’t know the right story to tell them.”

I think that’s why it is so important to know and tell, for example,  the stories of the Good Shepherd,  either as told by the 23 Psalm, or the shepherd stories told by Jesus.

Then I’m also reminded of what I experienced at the memorial service of a young mother, who was also the daughter of dear friends of ours. In honoring her life and requests,  her pastor told of a conversation that he had with this woman a year before her home going. Knowing that she was dying, she asked him if he would be willing to do her funeral. He told her, “Sure, what do you want me to say.” She said, “Just tell them The Story.”

Looking back, it’s apparent that this young mother knew how clearly and briefly her pastor could explain the wonder of Creation, the Fall, the Rescue, and the Restoration of a future day. He honored her request. Taking just a few minutes to do so, he used a back drop of video photos that illustrated so powerfully the beauty of Creation, the ugliness of the fall, the love of our Savior, and then again the wonder of a restoration that will make all things good and beautiful again. Those of us there were deeply moved not only by the Story, but knowing it had given perspective to a young dying daughter, wife, and mother who wanted those who remain to have a chance to share her faith and anticipation.

Now, with that explanation that, in my own desperate need for daily grace, strength and hope, I am not looking for “academic answers” (as much as I respect our need for those who can do that kind of work for us and the Body of Christ). I am looking for the Story and the stories that can help us  make sense of words like,

“He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.” (Revelation 22:11).

If the following conversation helps us make sense of such words, found in the last chapter of the Bible, we’ll go on to something else. Otherwise, we’ll take another look.


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  1. SFDBWV says:

    Mart I so much appreciate your open honesty. For me it is always the way to present myself, no masks no pretense, just me scars and all.

    I did sort of speak some to this subject at the end of the last topic, but I will give it another try as well.

    When Matthew was little he would love for me to tell him stories. I was often put to the test of inventing stories, where I would take Matthew along on great adventures always to a happy ending.

    Often, when we would be camping he would ask me to tell him Bible stories. So from memory I would tell him story after story, because he never could get enough. “Tell me another one daddy.”

    Now it would seem he looks forward to leaving this life, for the promise of a better one. Because he learned that this life is filled with disappointment, pain and heartache, the life God has promised is far better.

    It really isn’t much different for many of us. Life whether through our own actions or the actions of another has disappointed us, or hurt us. So we look to God to fix everything and make it better.

    After all Jesus said all we need do is ask.

    I heard an evangelist say the other evening that whatever it is that we need, ask God for, then allow for Him to figure a way for it to happen. Have faith.

    All the stories that make up the Bible are stories of hero’s of faith, as well as the failures of people who don’t listen or believe God. People who believe the lie instead of the truth.

    As Johnny Cash’s brother stated in Mart’s remarks, if we are going to talk Bible then we had better know the stories, and get it right if we are to help people along the way.

    One of the miracles of reading the Bible is believing it. A strange and wonderful relationship between us, the reader and the author. Who empowers us to be able to understand as well as gives us the faith we need to accept what it says as truth.

    Steve

  2. Mikek says:

    After years of studying theology and the like I have learned something that I had forgotten many years ago. I forgot why I became a Christian, why I wanted to read and memorize the Bible…why I fell in love with Jesus.

    In Bible college and seminary I learned to view the scriptures academically. I studied the history, culture and background in which the books were written. I studied the theology behind the book so to speak and something was lost along the way…my love for Jesus.

    I have earned degrees in biblical studies and theology. I am considering obtaining a second PhD this time in apologetics, centering around the Person of Jesus Christ and as I sit here at my desk…I don’t why I am going to school again for what would be my 14th year of academic work.

    If I could make an appeal to each reader, read your Bible, study your Bible, memorize your Bible. Never forget your love of Jesus. I never won anyone to the Lord by winning an argument against evolution, or whether or not Calvinism is superior to Arminianism or even if the scriptures are inerrant or not. I have convinced people though of my love for Jesus by my love for him as evidenced in my life and my reciting His story from the Gospels.

    Now, you may not give away every book in your library that didn’t pertain to Jesus as I have done nor do you have to attend bible college or seminary. Just get a bible in a version you will read and read it, commit it to memory and tell it with gusto. You will never convince anyone of their sin and need of Christ by quoting Calvin or Luther but you will if you quote Christ.

  3. Mart De Haan says:

    Thank you Steve, and Mikek, for opening your hearts!!! So much wisdom!!

  4. poohpity says:

    Mikek, I watched as my son went to bible school. He began with the faith of a child and came back from his first year so legalistic, I wept. Now as the journey has continued he is taking a step back from even wanting to be a youth pastor. The grace, mercy and love of our God got lost somewhere in academia and with peers but I know God is faithful and if that is the career he wants it will all turn around again. The one thing that is no longer part of his life is the personal time in scripture, it is all about the grades and getting school work done. You have blessed me that after all your study you have come back to the simple relationship with the Lord and the love of His Word. Thank you it gives me hope.

  5. bubbles says:

    There have been times when it is time to read the Bible, but I may be tired, or my heart is just not in it. I read anyway, more out of guilt for not doing so.
    Then when I read, there is a blessing or something else that speaks to my heart, and then I’m convicted for not wanting to read and think that would have been missed if the Bible reading had not been done.

    Mikek, thank you for encouraging others to memorize.
    There was a Christian here that staight out aked me what good it would do to memorize Scripture. I have not felt the same way about memorizing since that was said.
    Thank you for reminding everyone it is important.

  6. BruceC says:

    Steve,

    Good post brother! I feel just like your son at times. I see the anguish and sorrow of this world and long for Jesus and my real home. And you are right; the more we read the Word, the more we know and understand; and the stronger our faith gets.

    Mikek,

    I once heard a pastor refer to seminaries(not all mind you) as cemeteries. No love for Christ, no life. My wife is presently doing a “Reading the Bible in 90 Days” that our church started doing. She had tried reading through it before but couldn’t get past a lot of the so-called “dry stuff”. This time however she is truly excited and comes across verses that remind her of sermons, Bible studies, and how God has worked in her life. She is really committed. But she knows that when done she still has much more to read and learn. Learning the history and culture of the Bible is great; but I believe that looking for God’s love and grace towards us whom He loves really gives us the better picture. Look for Jesus on the Bible pages and you will find Him.

    PS Keep me in prayer. Yesterday was my 60th birthday and one of the gifts I received was a 24 hour bug and fever. Feeling much better today. You wouldn’t believe how many times I’ve been injured or sick on my birthday.

    May God bless all here and may the Lord use us mightily for reaching others with the Gospel and growing the Body!

    BruceC
    Soli Deo Gloria!

  7. poohpity says:

    Happy belated birthday BruceC. I also am experiencing some kind of bug for this last week I had to go first to the ER because I was coughing up blood and can hardly breathe. I pray you feel better soon.

    Mart you asked, “I am looking for the Story and the stories that can help us make sense of words like,

    “He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.” (Revelation 22:11).

    The one I can think of is in 1 John 3 because of what Christ has done we are righteous and holy to those who call themselves children of God and those who have not had the experience of accepting Christ’s salvation are seen by God as the unjust and filthy and they will remain that way until they have been washed in the blood of the Lamb. They follow evil ways and God’s children follow God and His ways. That is why it is so important to tell others what Christ has done for them.

  8. Bob in Cornwall England says:

    “He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.” (Revelation 22:11).

    Mart,

    as this statement is one of the last in the Bible and is preceeded by verse 10

    “And he [further] told me, Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book and make no secret of them, for the time when things are brought to a crisis and the period of their fulfillment is near.”

    I feel Jesus is saying whatever is in the heart of men by this time will not change.
    Holy men will be Holy and unjust men will be unjust. So be it! Time up! Final whistle!

    Oh that that day were here, but I know I am not ready for that day.
    Like Matthew, Steves son, I long to be set free from this body and life of despair but I know in my heart that I am not complete in Him. There is still a work to be done, but as can be seen from revelation, there will come a day when it will be too late to change.
    Thank God for our salvation to everlasting life in Christ Jesus. Without that one certain hope where would we be?
    Mart you metioned broken and needy people needing the “Daily Bread” that is provided by God’s Word.
    Somedays that is all I have to live for.
    Even my washing machine is broke, I tried to fix it again today!
    I feel a bit like Elijah, hiding in my cave, just wanting to be left alone.
    I need that wakeup call and some of that Angelic food that God gave Elijah, then maybe I can move on.

    Whatever you do Mart, make sure you keep true to the calling that is in your heart.
    I for one need this fellowship of brothers & sisters and the ministry that is “Our Daily Bread”.

    Bob

  9. bratimus says:

    In answering what Revelation 22:11 says, we can look back to what 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 has to say,

    And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

    the Bible is great, there are just as many words of warning to the saved, as there are as many words to find the lost to be saved

  10. chemsdad says:

    Dear Brother, Mark,
    I have the privilege of listening to Radio Bible Class for many years; even during my days at Moody Bible Institute in 1958/59.
    Since that time, I am convince even to the present time that we must get “back to the Bible”. We cannot live without water and food on a daily basis (even though there are some in this world who are desparate for such just now). Yet, on the otherhand, there is this mistaken understanding that we can live without the ingestion spiritually of God’s Word daily.
    There seems to be a “plunge” into the electronic age which has caused a laziness to get into The Word. There are some churches where the congregation depends on the jumbotron to be their only source of seeing God’s Word and that on a weekly basis; even though there are Bibles provided in the pew racks in front of them; my church included.
    I am not trying to “get on a soap box”; however, it is my deep desire that we as believers in the only Saviour, Jesus Christ to get “back to the Bible” as our source of FOOD! JESUS IS COMING SOON, ARE WE GOING TO BE READY !
    IN HIS LOVE AND BY HIS GRACE,
    ChemsDad

  11. foreverblessed says:

    Mart, you want to come back to the bible as daily bread, but then at the very end you bring up this difficult scripture right at the end of Revelation, 22:11
    OK, I go with you, to think about that, and I do not agree what others have written about it, :-)
    Here are the scriptures and my thoughts that go with them:
    I think that the Big Story says:
    God’s goodness is forever
    “Will the Lord reject forever? Will he never show his favor again? Psalm 77:7
    For the LORD is good and his love endures forever; his faithfulness continues through all generations. Psalm 100:5
    Psalm 118
    Psalm 136 every verse in it says: His love endureth forever.

    The following is an important one for me:
    Of the increase of His Government there is no end Isaiah 9:7
    That might, I say might, mean that if there are at the end of Revelation still people who are rebellious, they are a people still to be able to come into Gods Kingdom, and that means an increase of it.

    I know, there are many verses who would say: the end is the end, but maybe there is a very small tiny bit of hope for these people of Revelation 22:11.
    But much better that we now are a good light, shining as Jesus did, living on His daily bread, so many will come to Him now.

  12. foreverblessed says:

    Bob, hold on, do not give up, brother. I pray for you too.
    The springtime is coming! New warmth, new life.

  13. wpleasant says:

    The power of “stories” in infusing a thought or an idea is very potent. I remember as a child going to Sunday school. My teacher was a combat veteran of the Korean War. To this day I can’t remember one of his Sunday School lessons. What I do remember is his account of how he came to give his life to Christ. He told us in his class his platoon was in a terrible fire fight in the korean War. Bullets were whizzing by everywhere and he thought they were going to be overrun. I remember him saying to us that he prayed and said something to the effect, “God if you get me out this I promise to dedicate my life to you from hereon?” Somehow the platoon was able to the repel the enemy and my Sunday School teacher survived. I knew of him off and on as years passed and as far as I can tell he kept his word. The point is I didn’t remember any of the lessons, even thought they were well prepared, but I do remember that story to this day.

    Jesus suffered and died for our sins and rose from the dead. He lives today and will enter into the hearts of anyone who is willing to believe on Him, acknowledge that we are all sinners, ask forgivenenss for our sins, and receive that forgiveness and Him as Lord and Savior through the power of the Holy Spirit. The story is simple. The maize of doubt, unbelief, entanglement of sin, and the cares of this life are, on the other hand, complex to the point of sometimes being crippling.

    Makes the worids to the hymn, “I Need Thee Every Hour” come alive for me.

  14. Bob in Cornwall England says:

    foreverblessed,

    Thankfully the Daffodils are already in flower here.
    Spring is here and summer is on its way.

    Just as Jesus promised all the signs are coming to pass.

    I have Hope, I just need that mustard seed of Faith to make it happen.

    Thanks for being there.
    I hope the spring flowers are awake in Holland to.

    Bob xxx

  15. bubbles says:

    Bob in Cornwall,
    Your daffodils are blooming? Really? How wonderful!
    It is so good of God to give yellow as one of the first colors of spring. The daffodils will not be up here for another 2 months.

    There was a group of Robins here today, however.

  16. Regina says:

    Good Evening All

    Hope all is well with you today. I haven’t visited with you all for a few days. Tried to converse with yall a couple a times this week but was too tired. Makes me wish there were more hours in a day!

    Very interesting blog topic, Mart. The Bible verse that you referenced,
    “He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.” (Revelation 22:11).

    brought to mind, 2 Pet. 2:1-3; 12-16; 17-22, NLT

    1 But there were also false prophets in Israel, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will cleverly teach destructive heresies and even deny the Master who bought them. In this way, they will bring sudden destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their evil teaching and shameful immorality. And because of these teachers, the way of truth will be slandered. 3 In their greed they will make up clever lies to get hold of your money. But God condemned them long ago, and their destruction will not be delayed.

    12 These false teachers are like unthinking animals, creatures of instinct, born to be caught and destroyed. They scoff at things they do not understand, and like animals, they will be destroyed. 13 Their destruction is their reward for the harm they have done. They love to indulge in evil pleasures in broad daylight. They are a disgrace and a stain among you. They delight in deception even as they eat with you in your fellowship meals. 14 They commit adultery with their eyes, and their desire for sin is never satisfied. They lure unstable people into sin, and they are well trained in greed. They live under God’s curse. 15 They have wandered off the right road and followed the footsteps of Balaam son of Beor, who loved to earn money by doing wrong. 16 But Balaam was stopped from his mad course when his donkey rebuked him with a human voice.

    17 These people are as useless as dried-up springs or as mist blown away by the wind. They are doomed to blackest darkness. 18 They brag about themselves with empty, foolish boasting. With an appeal to twisted sexual desires, they lure back into sin those who have barely escaped from a lifestyle of deception. 19 They promise freedom, but they themselves are slaves of sin and corruption. For you are a slave to whatever controls you. *20 And when people escape from the wickedness of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and then get tangled up and enslaved by sin again, they are worse off than before. *21 It would be better if they had never known the way to righteousness than to know it and then reject the command they were given to live a holy life. *22 They prove the truth of this proverb: “A dog returns to its vomit.” And another says, “A washed pig returns to the mud.”

    Overcast and warm in Texas today (70’s).

  17. aboverubies says:

    dear Mart and friends,
    i know you quoted …”because in so many ways I am not trying to treat the Bible like “an academic” but rather like a child who is asking for a bedtime story.” and some posts answered beautifully that we need to not forget our first love like the Ephesians. But might i add that i find it rather frustrating running into “christians” that all they want is nice feel good Bible stories and dont take time to study academically. i find unique richness in knowing the “academics” of the scriptures. quite honestly we need to use the bible as great bedtime stories filled with love letters and as a guidebook for our lives as well as a foundation for our faith. it says in proverbs that God likes balanced scales and i think this is one of those examples. (by the way i know you are in no ways suggesting we dont study the bible!) i just wanted to say that we have to remember these letters were written so we as the bride can fall in love with the groom and know Him well (just as i need to know the “dry” data of my earthly husband, need to know the “academics” and also need to know him intimately). hope i am making sense and not insulting anyone. just sharing thoughts! snowy and windy here in Montana!!! love the snow!

  18. aboverubies says:

    lol just read back on previous blog and caught at the end that maybe adults can read the childrens bible. yes by all means. as a sunday school teacher and mom of five, i often read the children story version and add interesting details along the way to the kids. i can be a “kid” at heart and still enjoy the “scholar, mature” part of me. i like milk and meat!!

  19. saled says:

    I agree with wpleasant that the power of story is very potent. It’s almost like we were created to be captivated by story. And chemsdad mentions the plunge into the electronic age that has created a laziness to get into the Word. Yes, the way that people get and are given story is different now. Books don’t hold the appeal that they used to.

    I love the Story. I especially love how Jesus seemed to focus his attention on common people and obvious sinners. I love the stories told about Him, and the stories that he told. But when it comes to the entire Bible, I admit that I often don’t see the forest for the trees. Like this verse from Revelation 22:11. What is the Story and stories that can help us understand it? So much of the Bible is full of hope; this verse appears not to be, unless we think of it as a future condition that can be affected by our actions now. Still, I don’t ever see myself holy or righteous; I want to hide behind the idea that when God looks at me, he sees Jesus.

    Mart, we know what you mean by Story. What about story? Are you referring to only Bible subplots, or to our own stories? Again, the story told by wpleasant’s Sunday School teacher is captivating, but it wouldn’t make me, in Tolstoy’s words, “want to be good”. Now Steve’s story of his dedication and love for his son, that story makes me want to be good.

  20. SFDBWV says:

    In thinking about the story aspect of the Bible, as Mart wants us to explore. Also reading about Chemsdad’s comment about the electronic age, has brought me to remember our addiction to TV and movies.

    I now don’t remember how long ago the movie “Jesus of Nazareth” came out, but I remember seeing it as an Easter special on TV. I loved it, and when I could buy it as a VCR tape I did. I read all sorts of criticisms about the movie from the religious *police* who was upset because of the impossibility of a movie (story) being faithful, in their opinion, to the exact Word of scripture.

    The point is that, it didn’t matter to me, it was a movie, not Bible reading. I seen and see a difference.

    Since those days I have bought several Bible/Christian movies. They are presented as story, and I love each and every one. Because I don’t try to learn scripture from them, I just enjoy the story coming to life.

    Another of my favorites is the movie about David. What a character this man was, filled with courage and faith, yet also human.

    I also bought the full Book of Matthew on VCR. Because my son at the time couldn’t read that well (from his injuries) , I wanted to be able for him to *hear* the word. It is word for word from the Bible, yet shown in a story line.

    I have a great many such videos; because we enjoy sometimes just seeing the scriptures come alive in story line. Not meant to be a study course but rather meant to be just relaxing and enjoyed.

    Yes I can agree, sometimes we just have to relax, and enjoy a good story. If it just happens to be a story from scripture, all the better.

    Steve

  21. Mart De Haan says:

    Steve, saled, and all, I appreciate so much your patience and willingness to walk the line of “story” that can sound as if it is detracting from the truth of the Bible. It becomes easier to make the point that some have made is that the history of the Bible is His-Story.

    Saled, because you and others have been willing to ask the question with me, “how does the story of the Bible” help us understand a difficult quote like Rev 22:11, I’m going to do a separate post on that.

    I think that Bob from Cornwall is on the right track. Will try to post my thoughts in a bit.

  22. SFDBWV says:

    We all also have personal stories, about our life with all the ups and downs of living. We each have a story or for some like myself, stories to tell. Each a true story, some are happy, some are not, all can be encouraging and point the way for all of our need for Christ.

    Most of our stories can show how the life changing presence of Christ has altered our lives.

    Made us better people, made us more aware of God and His love for us.

    Here in this place we call a blog, we have the opportunity to share our life’s struggles, our successes and our current condition of awaiting our miracle.

    It makes much better reading than our arguing.

    Cold but Spring like weather in West Virginia, still snow on the ground, but our daffodils usually grow up through snow anyway, in a few more months.

    Steve

  23. Mart De Haan says:

    Steve, We too have had Spring-like weather the last few days that has gotten rid of most of our snow. But we’re under a winter storm warning here for freezing rain and a few inches of snow this morning.

  24. SFDBWV says:

    In that case Mart, put another log on the fire, set back with a “good book” to read and relax.

    Steve

  25. Bob in Cornwall England says:

    Believe it or not, our Daffodils are usually flowering in Late December and eatly Jan. but we had such a cold December that they are six weeks late.
    They are grown comercially so there are fields and fields of them all around my village.
    A sea of yellow.

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