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Who’s Blind Now?

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For an interesting conversation, read again the 9th chapter of John’s Gospel.

It has so many good lines about a blind beggar who can’t see until Jesus heals him, and two groups of people whose sight isn’t nearly as good as they think it is.

The chapter starts with Jesus’ disciples asking a question about the blind man. “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?”

The disciples think they are seeing in the man’s disability a direct consequence of somebody’s sin. But Jesus’ response shows that, by asking the “who?” question, they are showing that the blind man isn’t the only one who can’t see.  He goes to explain that the real question was a “why?” that only God can answer.

Jesus then heals the blind man and a wider discussion begins. People who had known the man as a blind beggar are confused. Some say, “This is him.” Others say, “No, it just looks like him.” The man says, “It’s me!”

When they ask the man what happened, “He explains that a man called Jesus has healed him.

Knowing that Jesus is an issue, the man’s neighbors  bring him to the religious leaders who have  made it known that anyone who calls Jesus the Messiah will be put out of the Synagogue.

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So the Pharisees grill the man asking him what happened. When he tells them what Jesus has done, the Pharisees inform him that if it’s true, he’s been healed by a sinner (because it happened on the Sabbath.

But the religious leaders aren’t ready to believe the man. So they go and find  his parents.  His mother and father confirm that, yes, this is their son, and he was born blind.

Not wanting to be thrown out of the synagogue, however, the parents, are afraid to say more. So they say they don’t know how their son has been healed. But, they add, if the leaders really want to know, since their son is old enough to speak for himself, they should ask him.

So the Pharisees call for the man again and urge him to give glory to God for his healing and not to Jesus—who they insist is a sinner.

At this point the man answers with his now famous line, “Whether he is a sinner or not I don’t know. All I know is that, though I was blind, now I can see.”

What I find especially interesting is how this incident resolves. When Jesus hears that the man has been thrown out of the synagogue he goes, finds him, and opens the man’s eyes and heart  even wider.

In the process some religious leaders overhear Jesus say that he has come into the world to open the eyes of the blind, and to close the eyes of those who think they can see (v 39).

To this the Pharisees ask whether Jesus is implying that they are blind. He replies, “If you were blind, you wouldn’t be guilty….But you remain guilty because you claim you can see” (John 9:41).

So I wonder, what do these religious leaders think  they can see? And why does Jesus want to make them blind? Is it so that they will not be able to see him, or is it so that they can?

One translation says, “I have come to give sight to the blind and to show those who think they see that they are blind” (NLT).

Am wondering whether this has application not only for those who are still outside of Christ, but also for those of us who, while being in him, and while knowing and worshiping him as the Son of God, have lost sight of how much he alone can see.

Maybe that’s why the wise man says, “Trust in the Lord with all your heart. Don’t lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him. And he will direct your paths” (Prov 3:5-7).


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65 Responses to “Who’s Blind Now?”

  1. tracey5tgbtg says:

    This post is amazing to me. I follow a “read the Bible in a year” plan that I got from wholesomewords.org. The reading schedule #4. And today’s reading included John 9. I had read over that and was thinking about how we can get so caught up in following rules that we forget to follow Jesus, the Son of God. We get so caught up in being right that we forget to love our neighbor as ourselves.

    Then I opened up this blogsite and was stunned to see the very chapter I’d just read. God is so good. He speaks to us so clearly.

    I pray that I will not be blind to God. To God be the glory!

    I think that the Pharisees, with the best of intentions, were so intent on doing what was right, and following the letter of the law, that the law become their god, and they began to put the law above the One who gave the law.

  2. Bobbie says:

    It seems like when our eyes are opened we can easily see the blindness of this world. But I agree with us being in Him lose “sight of how much he alone can see”. I have loved this passage with lack of understanding as I have always focused on the blindness of the pharisee’s. Yet God is very good in showing us our own blindness as we judge others, fall into disobedience and lose fellowship with our Lord. Christ said, “but because you now claim to have sight, your sin remains”. Truly His ways are not our ways. Thank you Lord for bringing us truth.

  3. refump says:

    My first thought was yah, I know some people like that. Then the Lord rebuked me & said what are you thinking, you are like that. Busted! I spend too much time thinking how blind other people are when I only need to be thinking about how blind I am & asking Jesus to give me sight.

  4. jam200 says:

    We often are so caught up in the rules and regulations of religion that we lose track of the purpose of the Great Commission. We turn people from the truth because our talk and walk are inconsistent. That is, we tell people to do as I say, not as I do.

    Jesus was transparent and true. He spoke from His Father to do His Father’s will. We often have an alterior (sp) motive or agenda behind what we say or do. This makes us blind to God’s truth. That’s where the Pharisees went wrong. It was about their agenda not God’s.

  5. BruceC says:

    We “church-going Christians” can be just as guilty as the Pharisees. Have we not favored one over the other or shown partiality among the brethren? If we dig deep enough we will find we have. But let us constantly allow Jesus to help us see our sin and confess it.
    Have always asked God to remind me that other Christians from a different church are just as much my brothers and sisters as those I share pews with on Sunday. Many in the body don’t see it that way. Isn’t that a form of blindness also?

    BruceC
    Soli Deo Gloria!

  6. Mike says:

    BruceC,
    Not only are the believers in other our brothers and sisters, but on a related note, God loves the vilest sinner just as much as He loves me or you. If God is not a respecter of persons, then aren’t I safe to assume that He loves us all equally and equally unconditionally? I need to remind myself of that often. In God’s eyes we are all filthy, saint and sinner alike, the only difference being that the saint is washed in the blood and the sinner is not. Yet the saint can take no credit for that.

  7. bubbles says:

    And, in another way besides not “seeing” our own sin, I have read and read a verse before. Then, for whatever reason, the light comes on, and it is understood in way it had not been before. And then I think, “why did I not see this before?” I love it when that happens because there is always something new to learn from God’w Word.

  8. poohpity says:

    Deut 27:18 “Cursed is anyone who takes advantage of a blind man”. I would think that is also related to those of us who have spiritual blindness as well. Again in Matt 15:14; Jesus reminds us; 14 Leave them; they are blind guides.[a] If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.”

    Some times when we feel we have spiritual awareness and do not consider that there are always going to be areas we are still blind in, it is Jesus that can open the spiritual eyes of blindness as well as the physical eye. It is also only Jesus that can open the ears of those who can not hear as well. It would be nice to give the credit where the credit is due and that is only to our Lord. In that Matthew verse which spoke to me is to leave those who have spiritual blindness to be blind. I also thought about the verse in Matt 7:6; Don’t give holy things to deprived men. Don’t gives pearls to swine! They will trample the pearls and turn and attack you.” That I guess is why it is important to leave the spiritually blind into hands of the Savior.

  9. bratimus says:

    One can take from this chapter of John that all are blind until God chooses to reveal Himself in us, through us.

    We all fall short of the glory of God.

    Through God’s grace is when God reveals Himself to us.

  10. Regina says:

    Good Afternoon All,

    Hope all is well with you.

    I love this verse,
    John 9:39, NLT “I entered this world to render judgment—to give sight to the blind and to show those who think they see that they are blind.”

    because it says to me that Jesus came to offer “the truth” to everyone, to those who don’t know Him (who don’t know that He died for their sins) and to show those who “think” they know Him (the truth) that they’re blind (not on the right path). He uses us (those who have believed on Him as Savior and LORD) to witness to those who don’t know Him. When we pray (for opportunities to share the gospel), Jesus gives us supernatural power via the Holy Spirit to share the “good news” with others. John 9:39 also brought two other Bible passages to mind…
    John 14:6, NLT
    Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
    Matthew 7:13-14, NIV
    13)Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14) But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

    Beautiful in Texas today (78 degrees).

  11. chukwujekwu says:

    Focus means blindness to anything ouside the range of your focus.The Pharisees were more focused on the physical interpretation of the law which in itself leads to self righteousness and hence blind to the essence and true meaning of the law. So that when Jesus comes into the scene, Him (Jesus) being the fulfilment of the law was not recognised by the very people who should have recognized him. Rather they rejected him and called him a sinner. This is blindness.The Bible said he came unto his own, and his own rejected him.

    However a number people saw him for who he is. This sight comes by revelation not just the physical opening of eyes but the revelation that this man is truly the son of God that was promised to the world to bring out the forgiveness of sin. This was the sight blind bartimeus received, which Peter also recieved when he declared that Jesus was the messaiah and paul.

    To those who acknowledge their blindness (sin) and need for him, come to him and recieve their sight. For those who think they are enlightened and have no need for him, loose their sight because their focus is not on what really matters.

    To end I will draw a similarity with another pharisee Saul who later became Paul. Saul believed he was doing the right thing for God when he hounded christians into jail and persecuted them. Just like his brothers he was blind to the truth about Jesus, despite his knowledge of the torah and the laws. ON his way to Damascus, he meets Jesus and from that moment his eyes were opened exemplified by the actual blindness and opening of his eyes. After he received his sight, he demonstrates insight that most of the disciples of Jesus did not have. Peter in 2 Peter 3: 15, 16 said “As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.”

  12. xrgarza says:

    Hello everyone,

    As I was reading this I personalized it simply to give me perspective as to where I am today.

    With Ash Wednesday being last week, and lent and all I found myself in a slump. My mother passed away last March and my depression has been in and out.

    Recently I read the passage that if I want to find myself I need to lose myself in the Lord.

    I noticed that I was complaining that I was working too many hours for little pay, and that my co-workers were not team players I began to avoid them even more, and since I had little time left over for myself I spent most of that time on Facebook.

    Last week I realized that what I was doing was not giving God glory so I have given up Facebook during this time of lent, yes it is painful.

    This week, my manager and I had a meeting telling me that he is upset with the team but has approached me as if I were the only person responsible for the issues.

    I went home grumbling telling myself that I will do what he asks grudgingly. Then in my prayer time I was reminded:

    That I had asked God to use me and to place me in a dark place so that I could be light to this dark world, and He did so and now I’m acting as if I were this spoiled child deserving better.

    I have since repented, I realize how blessed I am to have this wonderful opportunity, I was so full of self, and yes I was so blind but I now can see.

    God Bless you all

    Rocky

  13. oneg2dblu says:

    John 9:4,5 “As long as it is day, we must do the work of him who sent me. Night is coming when no man can work. While I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”
    Perhaps it is the “work of man alone,” who has brought all this blindness into our world. It certainly seems to be a natural condition of man, that he cannot see the light himself! It is only through the Grace of God today, that we are able to see through His Eyes.
    Are we not all born bind?… and only through being born again,are we given our sight that enables us to see HIM, Jesus Christ, for who He really is, Almighty God!
    The work of man is repentance, and the work of God is the opening of our eyes, that makes us see our need to Repent.
    Praise God, that through Born Again Believers,
    the Light of the World is alive and able to do all things, even greater than Christ Himself, when his followers share the Good News to the rest of the blinded among us. For God’s multiplication effect comes through His Church as they become the Hands and Feet of Our Lord and Saviour! We must be that Light of the world today, if we Obey Our Master and His Great Commission, then we who have the Holy Spirit within us,
    know the answer…Who is Blind now?

  14. phpatato says:

    I grew up hearing my Dad say “None is so blind as he who WILL NOT see. They truly are the ones who need our pity”.

    It took me a long time to realize what he actually meant by that.

  15. florida7sun says:

    Reading a post on another blog, one of my friends wrote, “when we see things different, we see different things.”

    Proverbs 19:6 says, “We are without excuse if we do not love God with all our hearts. His gifts to us are past number, and all the gifts of men to us are fruits of his bounty.”

    There is a difference between head knowledge and a knowledge borne of a heart that truly loves God. Many know the law and can quote chapter and verse like Saul. Others have no knowledge of the law, but are righteous in His sight for God knows their inner thoughts.

    When God affords to us the gift of faith through our need and hunger for Him, we receive a new heart (not one of stone but one who sees His awesomeness and majesty). Then, we see things differently. His Word comes alive. Life becomes meaningful. We desire to draw closer and closer to Him.

    Often, at night, I close my eyes and lay my head on my pillow as if it was the hem of His garment. What joy and assurance to be close to Him in spirit and in truth. A good night’s sleep is a blessing in itself.

    Love to all, Ray

  16. SFDBWV says:

    Luke 4: 18; Jesus quotes Isaiah 61:1 and in verse 21 proclaims the prophesy to be full filled by Him that day. Though Jesus explains further what it was they were unable to “see” or comprehend their collective action was to attempt to kill Him.

    When Jesus called the leaders of Israel blind leaders of the blind (Matt 15: 14) He was explaining that these men whose responsibility it was to keep the written word open and clear to the people, had themselves become ignorant and blind to what the Word had said. Thus teaching others to be as blind as they were themselves.

    Because everything in life is complicated and layered, especially in the written Word, once again we see Jesus dealing with the natural world by healing fully blind and deaf people, using the healing as a way to open the eyes and ears of those who could actually see and hear, to the supernatural underlying nature of what it was they needed to understand spiritually with relationship to God.

    All of us have attempted to open the mind of another to what we already believe to be true, only to be rebuffed by that individual to ridicule, insult and lastly anger.

    All the way back in Genesis God asks of Cain why it is he is upset and angry with his brother. Then warns him that through the doorway of resentment and anger sin is weaving a trap for him. (Gen 4: 6-7)

    Cain’s anger blinded him to the truth God had explained to him, and so the trap fell and sin snared Cain.

    Jesus warns us that even in our own home if we are angry with a brother, we are in danger of the fires of hell.

    That same trap awaits us all when we don’t believe God. Being able to see spiritually begins with that simple truth, just believe God.

    Then believe what it is God has to say to us throughout His written Word. Because we were blind God sent His Son into the world and subsequently the Holy Spirit, so that we no longer would remain blind to His Word, but rather that our eyes and understanding would be open.

    Even at this Paul says that what we see is seen though dark glass and not as clear as we would like, but that when we are face to face with God all will be made clear. (1Cor. 13: 12)

    Once we understand (see) if we ignore then God’s Word, then sin remains in us unto the judgment.

    However if we understand (see) that Jesus of Nazareth is Christ and we believe Him and accept Him then our sin does not remain with us and we escape the judgment.

    Steve

  17. florida7sun says:

    Thank you, Steve. Beautifully written.

    Ray

  18. rxman says:

    Some of you have probably heard some of the controversy over Rob Bell’s new book called Love Wins. The book just came out a few days ago but people have been opining for weeks, though many hadn’t read any or all of it.

    Most of the prominent evangelical Christian “leaders” have called Mr. Bell a flaming heretic and have already sentenced him to hell, whatever that may be (read his book for his opinion).

    I’m not saying that I agree with everything he has to say about heaven and hell, but at least he is willing to open it up for discussion.

    Reminds me of so many Pharasitical Christian leaders of today, that is, I know what I know and no one is going to convince me otherwise.

    Come on people, try and see what the books main title is, Love Wins. We may agree or disagree with what he says but he still has the right (and maybe the obligation) to at least bring some of these questions to light so we can examine them against scripture and not rely on what we were taught by our 1st grade Sunday School teacher.

  19. oneg2dblu says:

    Steve…. thank you for those great thoughts and for sharing what you know is truth, for your “gifted sight” blesses us all.
    I would add only Obedience, as a form of complete Salvation, for the words of the Lord, “Believe and be Baptized,” always ring in my ears. Faith in Christ should never forgotten, silent, unused, or taken for granted, for it is only through the “Gift of God” that caused the opennig of our eyes to encounter our first believing! Before that moment of Grace, Freely Given, we were all blind and living in sinful resistance, to the things of God, where we were found “actively blinded” by the world we worshiped! Gary

  20. waiting4jesus says:

    Thanks, Mart, for opening up this topic and excellent question. A phrase that was bouncing around when I was first saved was that the church is the only army that shoots its wounded.

    Clearly there is application to us as we try to figure out what’s going on with those around us – whether it’s in the pew in front of us or the street outside. I think part of what adds confusion (or helps many justify their self righteousness and lack of compassion) is that there are many passages that describe someone’s “misfortune” or distress as a direct result of their sin – Ps 107:10-22 has two such examples, for instance, in which the Lord brings mental or physical illness as a response to sin. Ps 1 descibes blessing upon the righteousness and not upon the ungodly. While there are clearly consequences for sin in this life, the presence of trials or suffering is not necessarily an indicator of specific sin (Ps 73, Ps 107:1-9 & 23-32, James 1:2-4, 1 Peter 1:6-9, Job). Many times Christians think that’s the case, though. Even if God’s response to an individual’s specific sin is part of that person’s problems, Gal 6:1-5 tells us to be very gentle in our approach and consider ourselves as sinners as well.

    We’ve experienced the opposite from church people when we’ve tried to describe our troubles. So we’ve learned to either stuff it or be very quick, even proactive, with a defense. The cure is a renewed and renewing heart of course, but having gone through the trials we have, we now see the world differently and react to those hurting differently. Many of us involved in this blog cannot imagine the world as a blind person. Who better to reach out to those still blind, both in body and soul, than the man Jesus healed? Still, that’s not an excuse to those of us without an impairment in our lives to not reach out in faith and love rather than condemnation.

    Meanwhile, there are Christians who are living quiet, comfortable lives in relative peace and prosperity. Does the lack of trial indicate sin in their lives because the Lord is not presently purifying them in His refiner’s fire? 1 John 1:8, 10 tells us, among a host of other passages, that they aren’t all that righteous! I’ve heard of church’s in which believers were looked down upon if they DIDN’T have or come from troubles. So in reality, the knife cuts both ways.

    As many have pointed out, the key is to love the Lord with all our heart, soul, and mind and love our neighbors as ourselves.

    Thanks again, Mart!

  21. SFDBWV says:

    Thank you Ray and Gary. There is no greater blessing then the enlightenment that comes from God, and we all need the strength of each other to encourage us along our way.

    If today we learn only one truth from scripture and “see” it the way God intended for us then today was a success and a blessing.

    If we are too busy looking inward as were the examples of the religious experts Jesus gives us in John 9, then we will have missed “seeing” and so receiving our intended moment of opportunity.

    Keeping our eyes and so our attention upon Christ enables us to walk on the storms of life, because we see that which can deliver us through the worst and not dwell on that which Jesus has already put under His heel.

    In Luke 21 beginning at verse 8 Jesus explains the coming troubles that will be visited upon mankind before His return. Then in verse 28 He gives encouragement to us all by saying “When these things begin to come to pass, then “look” up, and lift your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.”

    To look up takes action and to look up with expectation takes faith.

    Luke 21 beginning at verse 34 Jesus gives us warning and in verse 36 tells us to
    “watch” and pray always. In Revelation 3:3 Jesus again warns us of what can happen if we don’t watch, we will not be prepared.

    If we are not ready and prepared, how can we ever expect to lead others to be prepared and ready? Again preparing ourselves and readying ourselves is an act of obedience.

    We do so because we believe God and act upon it, keeping always our “eyes” upon Christ and “seeing” life through the eyes of faith.

    Steve

  22. poohpity says:

    I find it interesting that even after these religious leaders saw miracle after miracle they were still bent on proving that Jesus was not from God. Even satan and his legions knew His identity but the blind remained blind to Him. The religious leaders having the same bible that Jesus taught from could not see what was right in front of their faces because they were self righteous, self seeking, prideful and were not open any longer to the things of God. Some no longer were students in learning the vastness of God but clung to their small world of being looked upon as being spiritual leaders when in fact they heaped their man made understanding on the people of Israel.

    Thank God that Jesus came to set those captive to that limited understanding free to see and hear what God’s true intent was.

  23. refump says:

    Pooh- your last sentence made me think of Isaiah 61:1-3. I’ve been trying to think about what am I blind to that God wants me to see. How am I like the Pharisees. How many miracles have I seen & still doubt. It is the poor, the brokenhearted, the captives & the prisoners that he has come to set free. It is not until we have reached this point in our lives & acknowledge that we are all of these things can he give us sight by His grace.

  24. poohpity says:

    Yes, refump. If those that are blind do not see the need of His grace, rest in their religiosity. It is essentially saying I have no need for that grace because in and of one’s self they are sufficient with no need to have their eyes opened to that wonderful gift of Grace. To those of Israel and us who mourned their spiritual bankruptcy and blindness they are open to ask to be healed and filled with the beauty, joy and praise of God’s Glory, not our own. Very good point.

  25. poohpity says:

    I think that those religious leaders in John 9 thought they already knew it all and had it all together in their own minds. I think they were ignorant of their blindness.

  26. bratimus says:

    John 9:4

    “I must work the works of Him who sent Me while it is day; the night is coming when no one can work.”

    The night is coming when no one can work, when i read again the chapter this stuck out to me. What is this night Jesus spoke of that no one could work

  27. tracey5tgbtg says:

    refump and poohpity, your comments are so true. To be blind is to not see that I am a slave to sin and there is nothing I can do to change that.

    “Could my tears forever flow, could my zeal, no respite know, all for sin could not atone, Thou must save and Thou alone.”

    I have heard people say they don’t think they are going to hell because “they aren’t that bad, they don’t steal or kill” or “God knows I’m doing the best I can.” Those people are blind.

  28. poohpity says:

    I seems that Jesus was speaking about the things that God had given Him to do before He went to the Cross.

  29. tracey5tgbtg says:

    Bratimus – maybe it means death. As long as we are alive we can work and anyone can be saved while they are still alive, but after death …

  30. bratimus says:

    If Jesus was referring to going to the Cross, wouldn’t He Have stated it like “the night is coming and I can not work”

  31. poohpity says:

    I do not know. One translation says, 4All of us must quickly carry out the tasks assigned us by the one who sent me, for there is little time left before the night falls and all the work comes to an end. 5But while I am still here in the world, I give it my light. So it could mean the end times as well. We can pray about it and see what God tells us it means.

  32. oneg2dblu says:

    bratimus… good question. I believe Christ we speaking to the living, about all those who are enlightened and alive, bringing their light into this world. But a time will come, a time of darkness and death, to each and every body that should now be wroking while it can.
    In this world, we will always have the poor, the blind and those who can see only darkness. Our work is to share with them the light,and to give them sight that will make them rich in their now poor sinful spirit! That is the miracle we can do, while we are still living for Him in our earthly bodies. But night is coming, and to all who now live in this world.

  33. Regina says:

    Good Evening All

    Just dropped in to say hello. Hope all is well with you.

    Sunny and warm in Texas today (mid 70’s/low 80’s).

  34. foreverblessed says:

    Thanks for all your comments, and testimonies.
    I would like to tell mine.
    About the opening of my eyes. As many of you know I struggle with migraine, and last week was not the best.
    It is not easy to write this. It could be misinterpreted, but still, we are blind to many things and need illumination from God. 4 years I am now under doctors care, but medicine work for a few months, and that’s it. Relaxing, less stress, hormonal factors. Diet, all of them help a bit, but it doesn’t go away.
    I read in a book of Graham Powell about a spirit of migraine. I started to ask God to open my eyes so I can see. That was 2 years ago. Have been to conferences, people have prayed for me. But seemingly no result.
    Last week I started to pray very very intensely. On thursday I received this verse: Lamentation 5:19-21, on Friday Isaiah 51:14-15.
    And in church yesterday, the retired pastor in our church, asked how things were going with me, and I started to tell him, and tears came in my eyes. He immediately said, you can ask an anointment, like in James 5:13-17. I said I wanted it, and he asked someone else to join, and started to pray, and anointed me with oil. Suddenly he ordered a spirit of illness, and of headaches to go out in Jesus’ name. And this time I sensed something was happening in my body. In my legs and arms.
    How unknowing I was about this!

    Last night I had a dream: I owned a student home, but there were a couple of foreign students who resided there but did not pay. They were rude, and defiling the bath room,(where the bath is).
    When I woke up, I realised I have to throw them out.

    As not to make people frightened:
    1 John 4;4 You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.
    When Jesus is in us, He will grow bigger and bigger in us, and all evil power will have to leave, they can’t stand the Light.

    Thanks to GOd, He gives sight, Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light for my path Psalm 119:5 He gives the power of the resurrected Christ. I am not left alone, He does not leave me.

  35. florida7sun says:

    Gary, I agree. When the disciples asked Jesus how to pray, the Word He offered was light to them. As long as we live and pray in earnest to Our Father for His Will to be done on earth light prevails, for the Lord’s Spirit indwells those whose names are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life. The Spirit joins with us in prayer. Jesus’ light and the truth of His Word empowers us to share the Gospel, expressing His love through us to a hurting world and a creation crying out for redemption. There will be a day though when the Spirit and His Church will no longer be present on earth and darkness will again prevail.

  36. SFDBWV says:

    Luke 11, beginning at verse 33 says that no man lights a candle and then hides it under a basket. Verse 34 says that the light of the body is the eye and that through the eye one can see either light or evil (darkness).

    Matthew 25 gives us the story of the 10 virgins who go to meet the bridegroom, 5 whom are wise and 5 whom are foolish. The 5 wise virgins had their lamps filled with oil (The Holy Spirit), the 5 foolish ones thought they had plenty of time so while the bridegroom tarried they wasted away their time of opportunity, so at the midnight hour when the cry came that the bridegroom was coming, the lazy virgins had no oil and thus when the bridegroom came those who were ready went with Him to the marriage “: and the door was shut.”. The lazy virgins went to buy oil and ask to be let in but the Lord says I know you not. Night has come and their work is too late as it is quitting time.

    Matthew 8: 11-12 gives a stark statement that the children of the Kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness where there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

    This is a profound look beyond the rapture, beyond the tribulation, even unto the end of the kingdom on earth where Satan is again released from his chains and the children of kingdom rebel again (Revelation 20: 7-15). For the lost night has come, and the work is over.

    Now is the time for our salvation, When Jesus said it is finished as He died on the cross, the age of the brutal law was finished, but what was more important is what had come with His resurrection. We entered into the age of grace, and it has an end. We His workers are to evangelize the world for a time is coming when the work is over and the age of grace is come to an end.

    Darkness needs a light, Jesus Christ is the light of the world, we are His light while He is gone from the world, there is a time coming when that light will be removed and darkness once again comes, night will come when no one can work. Just as in the days of Noah the door will be shut.

    Steve

  37. oneg2dblu says:

    I liken it to today… If I’m alive tomorrow, I’ll report to work, if not, there will be no work for me!
    Before we are given our “perfected bodies” in Heaven, we must live in our corruptable tents, but for those chosen ones, with the Light of the Lord deposited in them, we live in tents that can still radiate His uncontainable and infectiuos Ligt! What “Good News” that is,Praise God!

  38. oneg2dblu says:

    Or, “Infectious Light” :)

  39. oneg2dblu says:

    Steve… interesting verse you’ve quoted about the children of the kingdom being thrown out into the darkness…. Mat 8:11-12 I just read that in the NIV and it says, the subjects of the kingdom! I thought who would be subject to the kingdom? Are those who refuse to accept Christ as Saviour, really be the ones who would be cast out, or is it when the saints return to the earth again, to work out the rest of the story?
    Or is it something else this verse speaks of? Gary

  40. Bob in Cornwall England says:

    Well said Steve!

    We, in our little Barn, cellebrated The Jewish festival of Purim yesterday, with the reading of the book of Esther and much singing, dancing, Boohing at Haman and cheers for Esther and Mordekai. Followed by lots of eats and a party.
    We left out the Jewish tradition of getting drunk to a point of not knowing when to Boo or cheer, we just drank tea and coffee. lol.
    It was a very different experience and was organized for us by a group of christians who study Hebrew scriptures.
    It was an Eye opener to the Hebrew way of thinking and a great laugh.
    it seems strange to me that a small church fellowship of Cornish Farmers and the like would even think of allowing such an event, but it made me realise how open we must be to others and their traditions and ways of cellebrating life.

    foreverblessed,
    I am so pleased that there has been a breakthrough in your life and that your eyes have been opened, as you said, to the cause of your migraines.
    I think your foreign students have already been thrown out, Just make sure the Holy Spirit fills the space so they can’t get back in.

    Love You

    Bob

  41. oneg2dblu says:

    Steve…A second rebellion? Had Revelation been penned for those who would recieve the words in Matthew?
    Who’s kingdom does this refere to, Satan’s or God’s?
    I’m losing my sight in the thoughts I find that are now unanswered for me. If Salvation is final, how could there be a second rebellion? Gary

  42. poohpity says:

    bratimus, I found this on biblegateway as a commentary on John 9:4; The fact that Jesus’ disciples will do such works in the future–indeed, even greater works (14:12)–makes Jesus’ next statement puzzling. He says this work is to go on as long as it is day for night is coming, when no one can work (9:4). Clues appear later in the Gospel as to when this night occurs. As Jesus approaches his Passion he will warn the people, “You are going to have the light just a little while longer” (12:35). When Judas leaves to betray Jesus it is said, “And it was night” (13:30). This is the beginning of the Passion, when Jesus will be taken from them for three days (cf. also Lk 22:53). When the light is absent it is night, and the night for John is when Jesus is absent, as Jesus himself says in verse 5: While I am in the world, I am the light of the world. Thus, the night seems to be the time when Jesus is absent from the world between his death and resurrection, since thereafter the Spirit will be present (20:22) who will continue Jesus’ work through the disciples. Through this strong warning, which regards such a limited period of time, we are led to see the enormity of the darkness of those three days in salvation history.

  43. bratimus says:

    Yep Mart was right about all the great lines in John chapter 9

    i do have to admit that i thought the conversation was fading so i brought up verse 4.

    My thoughts of verse 4 went to the the Sabbath after the Death of Jesus how the disciples mourned on it. Then how the disciple after Jesus had risen did not recognise Jesus at first just like the blind mans friends or people that knew him that Jesus healed in John 9. didn’t believe or didn’t see him for who he was.

    verse 4 also got my mind to go to in Revelation how Heaven goes silent for a half hour. God’s will is done on earth as in Heaven. A half hour of Silence in Heaven might make it very dark on Earth

  44. foreverblessed says:

    Thanks Bob, your love warmed me.
    Today I got this verse speaking to me:
    Isaiah 52:1-2 Awake, awake, O Zion, clothe yourself with strength.
    Put on your garments of splendour, O Jerusalem, the holy city.
    The uncircuncised and defiled will not enter you again.
    Shake of the dust, rise up, sit enthroned, O Jerusalem.
    Free yourself from the chains on your neck, O captive daughter of Zion.

    Thanks be to God, our Deliverer, our Shield, our everlasting Father.
    That our eyes may see Him more and more.
    There is a lot of things we christians do not see yet, and the time is now to look for it. Today… if we hear His voice Hebrews 4:7

    Pooh, did you read the morning meditation of Spurgeon today 21 march.
    No one was allowed to see the darkness,(the mysteries of “the agony.”in Gethsemane) 8 disciples were in the vicinity, 3 were quite close…
    “Yet even these cannot penetrate the secret places of the Saviour’s woe. “Thine unknown sufferings” is the remarkable expression of the Greek liturgy: there was an inner chamber in our Master’s grief, shut out from human knowledge and fellowship. There Jesus is “left alone.” Here Jesus was more than ever an “Unspeakable gift!””

  45. SFDBWV says:

    Gary, Look to the subject that is being discussed in Matthew 8, Jesus was impressed that this Gentile had more understanding and faith than He had seen in all of Israel.

    So Jesus states that when we are all together with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob that there will also be people from all over the world there in the coming Kingdom.

    As the scriptures always does it is multi layered and multi purposed in all the Author says.

    The 1000 year Kingdom on earth known as the millennium during which Jesus reigns as King upon the earth has survivors from the great tribulation. Nations of the earth are instructed to send representatives to Jerusalem annually or else they will be punished.

    We Christians are returned with Christ to rule and reign with Him. We are now in the same resurrected bodies as Christ and are not ever to be lost to sin again.

    However the people of the earth who survived will continue to marry and have children and enjoy heaven on earth for 1000 years with no more death.

    However God lets Satan out of his chains again once more to temp mankind into rebellion again (Revelation 20:7-8). Those who fall are the children of the Kingdom Jesus are speaking of in Matthew 8: 12.

    I hope this explanation helps you to understand.

    Steve

  46. poohpity says:

    We will never know the extent of the grief that Jesus felt during those dark hours of holding all the sin of the world upon His shoulders and being separated from the God part, that is truly darkness. That is something that we will always be blind to as human beings. This whole chapter after reading the commentary has opened my eyes to so much more about the blindness of those who thought they knew but were so blind.

  47. BruceC says:

    Spot on Steve on your post concerning the Millenium.

    BruceC
    Soli Deo Gloria!

  48. oneg2dblu says:

    pooh… very interesting, because there really was that period of time before the Holy Spirit came upon them in Acts. Then after that, was when they had the Indwelling Light transfered if you will to all present! Gary

  49. poohpity says:

    bratimus, it seems when we think the topic is fading is because there maybe more in there than was first understood but I have never known any of Mart’s topics to not have more in them to “Think About”. They are pretty deep for those who wish to look further into the topic rather than carrying the topic into another direction.

  50. poohpity says:

    Gary we posted at the same time. I think that was the only period that the light was not present was during the three days between the death and resurrection because after that Jesus was still alive before His ascension. Even after the ascension he only told the disciples to wait to do their ministry until He could send them the power to do it in so He was still present in some form or another.

  51. bratimus says:

    I didn’t say the Topic was fading, i said the conversation

  52. florida7sun says:

    Thank you all for your tremendous insights. You greatly encourage me to dig deeper and deeper into Scripture. And, the deeper I go, the more illumination is provided by the Holy Spirit. A few moments ago, I also read Charles Spurgeon’s sermon “Heaven and Hell” preached in 1855. It also spoke to my heart and I believe it is relevant to Mart’s topics “Who’s Blind Now?” and “Rumor on Steroids.”

    Blessing to all, Ray

  53. poohpity says:

    Forgive me for not quoting you correctly. I mess up a lot. <:-(

  54. poohpity says:

    Usually on the weekends there are not a lot of posts because folks are busy doing stuff so the conversation does tend to be slower. I comment a lot because I am disabled and do not go out often so this is very special to me which I would benefit more to listen much and speak little.

  55. bratimus says:

    Forgivness is always there and there was really nothing to forgive. I was just clarifying, i mess up all the time, as u have probably notice i keep my post short

  56. royalpalm says:

    Hello, Everyone,

    (Greetings from the snowy, cold north where it is still -8C and the rivers/lakes have 30″ of solid ice. Yes, it is officially Spring tomorrow).

    It is interesting to read the comments that have been posted already and I praise God for how He uses His word to teach each of us according to our own situation and experience and then use us to encourage each other.

    As you have said Mart, I believe the verse of John 9:39 refers both to those still outside of the church as well as those of us inside the church of Christ as well.

    As mentioned, we are born blind to the light of God by virtue of our sins until God, in His grace opened our eyes to the gospel of Christ and we believed. II Cor. 4:4 mentions the god of this age preventing people to see the light of the glory of the gospel of Christ.

    However, we, too, who have been granted sight can acquire or develop defective eyesight because of our confessed/habitual sin and thus be blind to God’s purposes and plans for us. Or we can be too preoccupied with personal situations or world events that we cannot “see” God Example, the 2 disciples walking with Jesus on the road to Emmaus.

    In Matthew 5:8, Jesus said, “Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.”

    At the tomb, though Mary Magdalene was overcome with grief and probably blinded with tears, she immediately knew/saw Jesus because she spent a fair amount of time with Him and the disciples. She knew His voice.

    The verse in Matt. 5:8 which talks about having pure in heart follows the verses 2-7 about knowing that we are poor in spirit before a holy God because of our sin, mourning about our sin and God’s grace comforting us; having a meekness and humility, having a hunger and thirst for righteousness, being merciful because of God’s mercy to us.

    The transformation that God brings in our lives, produces a heart that desires to please Him – making us more aware of His presence in our lives and in the things around us – making us “see” God at work in us and around us.

    John 1:44 “In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.” As we walk in His light, we will soon absorb and reflect that light – and we too become the light of men!

    May the Lord bless and keep each one of you as you walk in God’s light.

  57. royalpalm says:

    Oops!

    In my previous post, I meant, unconfessed and habitual sins… – (and also some subtle sins which include materialism, pride, discontent, envy, self-righteousness. )

    That is why, Paul urges us to pursue/strive for holiness, so we can see God.

    Hebrews 12:14
    ” Pursue … holiness, without which no one will see the Lord: …”

  58. Regina says:

    Good Afternoon All

    Enjoyed reading all of the comments and thankful for all of the wisdom shared on this blog topic.
    Steve, what you shared on the 1000 year kingdom (Millenium) was very enlightening. Thanks for your input.

    Sunny and warm (beautiful weather) in Texas today (82 degrees). :)

  59. oneg2dblu says:

    Thanks to all… now let me see, have we nailed it down?
    this “time when no man can work,” or have we each just brought several other creative explanations into the message?
    I always try to put All the Word of God into Relative
    Application for our lives today, more than the worshiping the historic momments it was created in.
    So, I am not a, WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN, context only type, but try to see it with the Enlightened Eyes we have today. As far as the 1000 years go, I feel some what removed from that, and really just want to know how this should “play out today” in our current darkened world. We do live where MEN CAN WORK, and are both Equipped and Commanded, by Our God to do so!
    To me we live in the Working Age of Grace, with a Defined Mission. The rest of the story, is history, and very interesting, but not needed for my Relationship with Christ to be valid, or for Salvation, or for the Indwelling of His Holy Spirit, and Accomplishing the Great Comission! So, I leave all those wonderful particulars to those who find them necessary for their fulfillment, education, credited degrees, and profound abundance of knowledge, which many here possess. I am blessed that this rule that works for me, Keep it simple. Sorry for all the words just to say… Keep it Simple. Jesus Loves Me This I Know, actually, He Loves Us All :)

  60. oneg2dblu says:

    Gee I was on a roll,… maybe the blog police have saved you from my many words… cont’d, for Salvation, or the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit, which is the Light we are equipped with today. Praise God, for these words, “Jesus Loves Me This I Know,” application for today … He Loves All of Us! Be Blessed, :)

  61. bratimus says:

    Christ is the Alpha and Omega, A through Z, What was, what is, and what is to Come. Christ is in everything so to be watchfull towards Christ is the simplest thing we can do, even in things to Come.

  62. poohpity says:

    I guess I am confused again about the what the topic is.

  63. plumbape says:

    foreverblessed this may sound weird to some but this fellowship of believers here at BTA are in a spirtual group that can exceed most churches. This is what I mean by that;

    Most of you know I don’t say much but I’m here everyday at some point. I read the last comment on Sunday at 8:30 by Regina ( God bless her, she is so sweet ) and was wondering about not hearing from you foreverblessed lately. I started to comment about it but didn’t and now wish I had but no matter. So I prayed you were okay and that Jesus would take the migraine from you.

    The very next comment the next day was from you…! I might have been thinking about you and your migraine issue when you were being annointed and prayed for and or dreaming about the ones you need to kick out. Sing with me, how great and mysterious is our Lord Jesus the Light of the world…..!!

    Love you folks
    Michael

  64. foreverblessed says:

    Blumbape, thank you so much for your concern. It brings tears to my eyes. Thank GOd He leads everybody, as one Body.
    Your attention must have been around the time of the dream. I sometimes have a prayer for you, and your wife. That God will fill up all the love you need, and more then that, so it will overflow (and also) for her!
    Praise to God, Hallelu jah

  65. chrismissions@gmail.com says:

    Thank you Mart. This like all your posts are very thought provoking. I’m glad they’re easily viewable on mobile devices.

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