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Terror in Tacloban

In another day and age, the victims of a catastrophic storm like Typhoon Haiyan would have gone unnoticed by most of the world. But today the images and eyewitness accounts stream to us in almost real time.

A BBC news report says,”Tacloban is totally destroyed. Some people are losing their minds from hunger or from losing their families,” high school teacher Andrew Pomeda told AFP news agency.

“People are becoming violent. They are looting business establishments, the malls, just to find food, rice and milk… I am afraid that in one week, people will be killing from hunger.” …

When Job’s friends heard that one of their own was enduring his own hellish losses they came and sat with him for seven days in silence. Only later, as their friend’s faith faltered, and as he began to lose his mind in grief, did they made the mistake of thinking that he–more than themselves– must have done something to deserve such losses.

Their presence and silence were eloquent and wise… until…

 

 

 

 


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  1. tracey5tgbtg says:

    In another day and age, most of the world would not have noticed their plight and there would be no relief in sight except for the provision of God. Today the whole world can see and watch and provision will come to these people from around the world.

    I can see how it easy it is to criticize someone who is suffering for complaining and acting badly in their suffering, as Job’s friends did. Did God allow Job’s suffering in order to see what his friend’s reaction would be? What should they have done? Clearly they were wrong to tell Job that he was being punished for things he must have done wrong. Should they have continued in silence?

    I still believe that the media will pick the most heart wrenching scenes to air for the world to see. I think reporters use slightly inflammatory language as well. I believe there are people in this world who are suffering without the benefit of airtime and there are people who have gone longer than a week without enough food to live on.

    Just read a book about the earthquake in Haiti; even after all the news media and the promised help, (most of which didn’t come) they are still in severe trouble and poverty and hunger years after the event.

    What is the correct response? How do we ensure that everyone has a good and decent life free from pain and suffering? What is the best help we can provide? What does God want me to do?

    How easily I could have been born in an impoverished, war-torn country but instead I was born in America, which was a good place, apparently, when our grandparents were young, but is now being corrupted by sinners.

    Lord Jesus, I believe, help my unbelief.

  2. cherielyn says:

    Mart,

    Regarding your opening comment, “In another day and age, the victims of a catastrophic storm like Typhoon Haiyan would have gone unnoticed by most of the world. But today the images and eyewitness accounts stream to us in almost real time.”

    This reminds me of Rev 11 about the two witnesses. Rev 11:9 (KJV) “And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.”

    Years ago, when I was a child, having read that, I wondered how it was possible that everyone in the world would be able to see this, little knowing that shortly there would be TV’s & then a compuer age, making this entirely possible.

    An update for my friends here: I will be having my radiation treatments this week. The schedule is for 5 treatments between Nov 13-19 (Wed, Thu, Fri & next week Mon & Tues). They are scheduled for 1:00 p.m. each day except for the Friday one which will be at 8:00 a.m. Praying that these treatments will shrink the offending tumor & give me relief from the pain I have been dealing with for 8 years.

    And now, time to get ready for church!

    Cheryl

  3. SFDBWV says:

    As the first reporting came out of the Philippines there was an almost smug arrogance of a limited loss of life due to the government’s warning people of the coming storm.

    Today’s headlines say as many as 10,000 may have died in Tacloban alone.

    We who live in an illusion of safety in the USA need only remember Katrina and New Orleans as an example of what to expect when the storm reaches home.

    People become animalistic and killers for just a meal.

    Look to the Book of Revelation and *see* what storm is coming, look to the headlines today and *see* another example of what to expect when the storm of tribulation comes.

    God gave example in Genesis and in the Ark safely He kept His chosen remnant safe. For the coming tribulation God again offers safety in the Ark of His salvation, for His Church.

    Woe to those who choose to stay and weather the storm.

    Prayers for the people of the Philippines as well as those who lie in the path of the storm as it moves on toward Viet Nam, Laos and China.

    Steve

  4. Artle says:

    Job’s friends brought worldly wisdom to a spiritual battle. They had not the slightest inkling of what was happening.

    Assume the lesson is: Our great wisdom will not save us.

  5. remarutho says:

    Good Morning BTA Friends –

    The horrors the survivors are finding in Leyte Province are causing extreme reactions. Around the world, aid and rescue forces are being mobilized. It seems to me there comes a point in the process of retrieving the bodies of the dead and searching for the living among the debris that hearts and minds are broken, as you say Mart.

    The “dissection” of tragedy is not helpful – theologically or philosophically – in the immediate aftermath. Those who rail at God and curse the day of their birth, as Job did, need a patient hearing. There were no tranquilizer drugs in Job’s time, but quiet listening and the gentle rhythm of prayer and worship are better than the accusations and harsh judgments of Eliphaz, Bildad and Zophar, the three friends who came to be with him. They would have served Job better by silently watching over him, mourning and celebrating the lives of his children and servants, and helping to bury the livestock and clear the debris.

    Pronouncements about the justice or injustice of Typhoon Haiyan are meaningless, as far as I can see: that much more wind blowing over the Pacific Ocean. The authorities will have to restore order in the city and villages, to halt senseless killing and looting.

    We are called to pray for the people of the P.I. — and for those in the path of the storm. Lifting you up for healing and the assurance of God’s provision, Cherielyn, as the days of treatment approach. Our God is merciful and loving. Jesus is our Witness. Romans 12:12

    Blessings,
    Maru

  6. poohpity says:

    “Their presence and silence were eloquent and wise… until…” they tried to put human reasoning and a lack of faith into the mix. Giving advise rather than comfort, making wounds rather than covering and putting ointment on the ones made by these circumstances, making Job cry and hurt rather than wiping away His tears, searching for answers rather than seeing how they could satisfy Job’s current needs.

  7. swwagner says:

    It is truly heart-wrenching to see the pictures. After awhile I have to quit or become inconsolable and useless. Of course, that is not a luxury that the people of Tacloban have since they are living in the midst of the horror.

    It is confusing to know how to help or what to do…so sadly, I do nothing. What physical things can I send that would help? My prayers for their relief seem insincere. May God have mercy on us all.

  8. oneg2dblu says:

    Of course Job’s friends could not experience his loss or fully understand his grief, but they saw his breaking down and they acted perfectly, but wrongly, in this hind-sight we bring into the discussion about the scriptures we discuss today.
    Just as in this horrific storm with an intensity not seen before it all plays into the scriptures we read today concerning the coming of the end of the age.
    Where frequency and intensity will continue to increase and of course we don’t know how to act either, unless we’ve read the rest of the book. “No!”
    Not unless having read it or not, We ask God for the wisdom as to how we are to act, fully expecting He will answwer us.
    Knowing by experience we will hear His voice, but will we follow?
    We must also realize He will answer each in His own way, and according to the giftings He has already provided, and the faith required to use them fully for Him, or, we too will come up short in our strength and reasoning, He knows that, but God would give us exactly what He knows we need to do.
    Just Ask and Believe… Prayer is essential to start the process and may be the only process we can provide
    today.
    Gary

  9. oneg2dblu says:

    Has anyone else here ever thought that along with this frequency and intensity of such tragic consequences, God’s plan for His people is to increase and intensify their prayers to Him?
    Also increasing our testing of faith and dependence on Him, as He had chosen for Job then, He choses for us today…
    Can we suffer their loss, and understand their grief?
    Or, do our prayers today provide the ointment needed in this currently festering world?
    I say, apply our prayers today liberaly and often all day and make sure to call upon the Great Physician first thing in the mornibng as well.
    Gary

  10. poohpity says:

    God did not seem to think that Job’s friends acted perfectly. How can something be perfect and wrong? God said they spoke falsely and in folly because they did not know God like Job did. God rebuked those so called friends for making Job’s suffering worse and speaking of God as if they knew Him but it was obvious by God’s reaction to them they did not know God at all.

    It seems that anyone who has suffered loss, trials and grief can be empathic towards others who are in similar situations that is just one area that turns our suffering into a useful thing as well as developing our faith and perseverance.

    Any prayer offered up in faith is listened to by God and is answered according to His will, mercy and grace. Prayer is our best tool for those who are experiencing the tragedies of this life because I think that opens the door for God to tell us what we can do physically as well to ease the burdens they are suffering. At times prayer may be the only thing we have to give but that is enough when we trust God to provide.

    Cheryl, continued prayers for the success of those treatments and your pain to subside. Also for the worries and fears going through them for you and your family. It is so taxing and depressing being in pain all the time, I understand how that feels. :-(

  11. belleu says:

    Great question and comments. I especially like what Gary said about increasing our prayers as we see the world falling apart. Jesus said, “There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken.” Luke 21:25-26

    My cousin lost her son in a car accident and the people of her church told her it was because she lacked faith that God didn’t spare her son’s life. Those people were like Job’s friends. She left that church and found another. A hug, kiss and saying, “I’m so sorry,” is the best thing to say. Also, bringing food and helping out in what must be done. Trying to explain tragedy just makes things worse.

  12. oneg2dblu says:

    Pooh… you asked,”How can something be perfect and wrong?”

    It was wrong to crucify Christ who was perfect, but that wrong act fit perfectly into God’s plan for our salvstion.
    It was wrong for saul to persecute Christians, but perfect for his Damasuc Road experience, that changed his direction.

    It was wrong for belleu’s cousin to be told it was her lack of faith that caused her sons desath, but that aslso made her change churches.

    So, in God’s plan and economy we may lack the understanding of how wrong turns taken by others, turn out to fit perfectly into God;s plan for them.

    The story of Job is to me just another example of one who was rightious in God’s eyes but also suffered for reasons we can not understand.
    Gary

  13. oneg2dblu says:

    Sorry my fingers are not touching the keys as perfetly as I would want, but all is not wrong, mbut aybe just a bit confusing.

  14. poohpity says:

    How could the act of crucifying Christ be wrong since God ordained it from the beginning of the world. Was it not God who crucified Christ for us as a perfect sacrifice, that was what He was born to do?

    I thought you were talking about Job’s friends acting perfectly but wrongly? I must have misunderstood again. That was what I was referring to in my question.

  15. belleu says:

    I could be wrong, but I think God’s plan was for Jesus to be sacrificed on an alter like a lamb. Instead he was murdered. I don’t think God ordained that. He knew it would happen and so it was written in prophesy in the Old Testament. It was wrong to crucify Christ, in my opinion.

  16. poohpity says:

    I know some things seem really hard to understand or comprehend but no one murdered Jesus He willingly gave up His life. He at anytime could have stopped it but that is what He came to do as well as reveal the Father. That is what was so wonderful about what He did for such undeserving people as us. Jesus being fully God and fully Man had all the powers of God to do anything He wanted. You may find it interesting to read Isaiah 53; John 3:14 NIV; John 12:27 NIV; John 12:32-33 NIV

    It is not about being wrong or right it is what we are taught in the Bible and some of it is hard for us humans to understand. It does not mean God is mean it means He loved us that much and wanted a relationship with us and went to those extreme lengths to do so.

  17. oneg2dblu says:

    Sorry, outside of the now known story of the bible
    I will never believe that setting that criminal Barnabas free and then “in his place” killing an innocent man, was doing the right thing to do.

    Was it nott was really just the wrong choice of the people who made that decission, and the power of the authorities was then relented just to prevent a riot that actually prevailed.

    P.S. If I remeber the story correctly, Christ did not nail himself to that cross and then place it upright for him to die on it.

    Yes, it fulfilled prophesy, and that part is all good and all God, but it was driven by the wrong hearts, and wrong motives of the people who could not see God’s perfect plan, or their Messiah.

    Even in the courts of modern man today, where the mention of God is relented as to not offend anyone, we have given our law precident as the right choice to protect the innocent, because even sinful man knows that killing the innocent is always wrong.

    There is right and wrong in every right or wrong action of mankind.

    The official of the law in that day, if I remember the story correctly, the authority was on the govenor who washed his hands of the matter, because he also knew “it was wrong” to kill this innocent man.

  18. oneg2dblu says:

    So, the whole story changes as we look tat either the eyes of man, or the heart of the Master.

    Sorry for all the messed up structure am having problems processing in this location and the words are so delayed at times I miss seeing the conflicted message.

  19. oneg2dblu says:

    belleu… Yes, Christ fulfilled the prophesy, being led to the slaugter as a lamb silent before the sheerer.

    So, that is why He did not argue or answer back to the charges brought against Him.

    But, He also carried his own cross as long as he could physically endure it, and then it was carried by another to the place of his wrongful execution, or wrongly motivated killing.

    So, we today even if we are the experts of the written word, have the most unique perspective of knowing both the prophesy that predicted the coming of these events, and the rest of the story found throughout the scriptures.

    Only God knows the fulness of all the events to come, but He has blessed us today with enough of the story found in His Word to follow Him correctly into Our Eternity through our making of right choices, and being able to discern wrong ones.

    So, I am with you that there is both right and wrong
    found in the sotry, and how we choose to see what Christ has done, and will yet do.
    Gary

  20. belleu says:

    I know Christ voluntarily gave his life for us. He could have gone back to heaven at any time. He didn’t have to let himself be crucified. But I also don’t think God wanted the Jews and Romans to crucify Christ.

    If the Jews had accepted Christ, then I think he would have laid down on the temple alter and let the priest slay him with a knife. He still would have died for the world but in a different way.

  21. oneg2dblu says:

    belleu… that all sounds resonable enough, but it would not hace satified the words that say he would be hung on a tree.
    Although He would certainly qualify as as a blemish free sacrificial lamb for us and for our sin, He had to fulfill the scriptures as written.
    So, the cross made from trees was a more fitting way to surrender up his life.
    WEe can’t by our own deduction find all this completely easy and believable, we must first have faith to believe the story, and faith to believe that which we can not see is also of God for the good of those who love, fear, worship, and follow Him.
    Gary

  22. belleu says:

    Well, I think the scriptures told of him dying on a cross because God knew that would happen. If He had seen in the future something else then something else would have been written in the Old Testament. At least that’s the way I see it.

  23. poohpity says:

    John 18:10-11 NIV

  24. poohpity says:

    ooops that was John 19:10-11 NIV

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