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The Author’s Characters

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In screenwriter Robert McKee’s book, Story, he says that the question of whether plot or character is more important to a story is as old as Aristotle. He went on to say that Aristotle weighed each and concluded that story is primary, character secondary.

McKee goes on to explain that this perspective on storytelling held until the nineteen century when consensus turned toward the opinion that what a listener/reader wants in a story is fascinating, believable, complex characters.

McKee, himself, believes that the personal choices that form the plot of a storyline cannot be separated from one another.

He goes on to show his fascination with the way a plot or subplot answers the question, “At the heart of a person’s humanity what will we find? Is the person “loving or cruel? Generous or cowardly?” His opinion is that “The only way to know the truth is to witness how someone make choices under pressure…Pressure is essential. Choices made when nothing is at risk mean little.”

Since McKee is writing about screenwriting and fiction, I’m wondering whether what he writes about story can add to our conversation about how to understand the Bible? How does the Author of the Bible tell the story about the people he wants us to know about? Does he give us men and women who are simple or complex? Are they believable under pressure?

Or does the way the Bible ends leave us with the conclusion that all that matters is whether we choose to put our faith in the Savior who then in turn becomes our legal proxy (acting in their behalf) for entrance into the Kingdom of God?

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Does the Author of the Bible develop his characters so as to give us a story that is complex and deep enough to explain the best and worst of our own ongoing desires and decisions?

And when his story gives followers of Christ reason to find their identity and security “in Christ,” –does that do justice to the complexity and depth of who we— and who our God really is? (Or has the answer that “God no longer sees us. He sees his Son” been used to miss the richness of what is really happening?)

I hope thoughtful answers to these questions will help take us deeper in our understanding of the love, goodness, and wisdom of our God. May our answer to these questions help us to keep immersing and finding ourselves in the One story that explains all others!


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  1. SFDBWV says:

    In attacking today’s topic, I feel I must do so in pieces. As it is presented in 3 main parts. Firstly, I like to agree with McKee and his understanding of how a story is presented. I wonder though has the presentation of stories changed over the past several thousand years?

    If you want to see how story is presented through characters primarily, just tune into any TV soap opera. It is all character and almost no story apart from their lives.

    Or tune into an old episode of Seinfeld, “a story about nothing” but full of characters.

    All of the types of reading or writing where a character has to be developed in order to explain their actions and responses are most certainly *fiction*.

    I wonder, if the Iliad was a story about the Trojan War, or the adventures of Ulysses?

    Certainly if you read the “Persian Wars” by Herodotus, it is supposed to be history documentation. It is filled with real characters with story lines surrounding their lives. However there is also a good deal of hearsay added to the *story*.

    If you read Sherlock Holmes, except for the main characters, it is most all plot and story. The new characters in each new story only there to support the story.

    As to how we see or understand the writings of fiction or semi fiction is carried over to my perception of our Bible. I will write more later on as time will allow.

    Steve

  2. joemk says:

    I think the Bible story and the characters in it is different from fictional stories. It is reassuring for me that God’s story as told in the Bible uses the least probable characters to advance the story. In many fictional stories the author creates a character suited for their role in the story,in the Bible, God uses ordinary characters, with many flaws to advance his story. Except perhaps for Jesus who is sinless, most of the other characters especially in the Old Testament are people like you and me, who are sinful, weak and not sure that they can do what God asks of them. Faith plays a larger role in God’s story than the characters themselves. Unless of course one sees it from the perspective of God himself being the behind-the-scenes character in the biblical story, then the character would outweigh the plot in terms of significance.

  3. Mart De Haan says:

    Great thoughts. Thanks to both of you,Steve and joemk for advancing today’s post.Just had a chance to read over what I had written and had to clean up a bunch of typos and confusing sentences that I had missed in the early morning hours. Thanks for overlooking them and getting to the point :-)…

  4. SFDBWV says:

    How to understand the true story of the Bible? That statement makes me believe that somewhere in our conversation we have exposed a false story of the Bible. Have we?

    “How does the author of the Bible tell the story about the people he wants us to know about?”

    This seems to be character development. However, is God developing the character of people he wants to use in his story, or using their character in order to achieve the same goal?

    Because the Bible is so complex and so connected to all other parts of itself, it is very difficult to see which God is doing. All the while developing our character while we read about and learn from the people God use.

    A small example of what I am saying is this; Saul was chosen by God to be the first King of Israel. Yet Saul had character flaws that would lead to his downfall. David was a better choice for King, yet God chose him second. It was David’s character that pleased God, did God develop David’s character or was David’s free will the instrument of his own development? Was it Saul’s free will that led to his downfall?

    Before you jump to a conclusion that it is always free will that preempts God’s will, remember that our salvation was foreordained from before the foundation of the world.

    Also it is accepted that God’s choice of Saul first then David second is a symbol of Christ. Adam first then Jesus second, the first a failure the second a success.

    So are the characters then there to support the story, or to explain it?

    Steve

  5. florida7sun says:

    No character or story is necessary to comprehend the majesty of our Lord and Savior.

    Yet, we know that “everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.”

    The fine tapestry of character and story in the Word is weaved liked the veil, which separated the sanctuary from the holy of holies. As we feed on the Word (and thereby comprehend the distinction between glorious light and pitch-black darkness), the Lord encourages us to step forward, open the door to our heart and receive His precious gift of salvation.

    I do not question whether character or story is more relevant.

    “For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.” – 2 Peter 1:21

    Ray

  6. poohpity says:

    I guess I do not look at the bible as stories about the characters but about the Author and His relation to the characters. I see a glimpse of what God has given us to know about Him and how he relates to the people He created, the rebellious, often frightened, lost, confused, intelligent, wayward group of people wanting to feel and know they are loved, accepted and belong to something. They want to know they have a purpose and get lost sometimes because they do not realize that their purpose is to allow the God who created them to show how much they are cared for and loved and that God will never let them go no matter if they choose Him or not He is still there.

    To me it is simple but I tend to make things complicated because that is just how I am wired. To me God has given us things to watch out for so we do not have to go through so much more pain in our lives than what will already be there but of course we do not take heed. Several times in the scripture God has told us to love Him with all our heart, soul and minds. Our minds crave knowledge and we try and figure things out we do not understand rather than being child like and just trusting our God.

    We have over the years tried as we might to figure out why we behave as we do, why the planets and the stars do the things they do and the list goes on because inquiring minds want to know things but those things are about complexities that we may never understand because if God wants us to know then He will open the door. Even when I write the word God and refer to Him in the male gender that states that I really do not understand all that God is by putting a label/pronoun understandable for some readers. We as human beings make things so hard and find as we get older when we just go back to the basics things get less stressful and more enjoyable unless we want some credit for something then it all goes back to Is God really getting the Glory which is what happened in the beginning and will happen in the end of this life as we know it. To God be the Glory for ever and ever and it will happen no matter if we are a party to it or not.

  7. Mart De Haan says:

    Poohpity, I think you are right in looking for the way God reveals himself by the way he interacts with the lives of his people.

  8. herenowkingdom says:

    I believe God is the “ultimate novelist” – who, while allowing us (his characters) the freedom to align with, or set ourselves against his will – still accomplishes his ends with unrivaled artistic integrity.

  9. poohpity says:

    Mart, Can you imagine what the world would be like if we asked God about the actions we take before we take them and even gave a bit of thought if it would bring honor to God through our actions, the things we say and the things we think. But God knew that that is not something we will always do as evidenced throughout scripture even from those God spoke of as people after God’s own heart.

  10. poohpity says:

    Amen, herenowkingdom.

  11. SFDBWV says:

    I have stated repeatedly over the course of the subject, that the Bible its author its subject matter its life stories its predictions and its conclusions can never be presented in contrast to books written by mankind.

    This collection of books we have come to know of as our Bible has been recorded and written for our benefit. So that we might learn to be like God in attitude and nature, or pay the consequence.

    The Book of Acts is an unfinished book. We as well as the people of the past 2000 years are its characters. We are its recorded failures and its recorded successes.

    In our lifetimes are such people as Ananias and Sapphira, Stephen, the Eunuch, Cornelius, Tabitha, and many more people Christ impacted. These stories are still going on. There are such people all over the world, whose lives are forever changed and supercharged for the Glory of God and of His Son the Christ.

    When we all get to the full end of the story, our stories will be the jewels in our crown and Christ will share His glory with us, as it is already been written it will be so.

    As has been said here many dozens of times by many dozens of people. It is about Him, not us.

    Steve

  12. Bob in Cornwall England says:

    Mart,

    Perhaps it is just me, but I am extremely uncomfortable with these topics, discussing the Bible and it’s Author as if it were a man made concoction of fiction and fact.
    If I was a Muslim and this was about the Koran and it’s author, I would probably be offended and invoke some kind of law and take action against RBC.
    But I am a christian so should act differently!

    The Bible is about people and their struggle to live the life God has asked of them to live.
    It is God’s inspired Word.
    It is the Word of God and has the power to change people lives forever.
    It is God/Jesus expressed for all of us to see.
    Above all it is the key, along with the Blood and Sacrifice of Jesus, to our salvation and abundant New Life.

    I have no further comment to make on this subject.

    Bob

  13. dja says:

    Thank you, Bob. I agree.
    “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.” II Timothy 3:16

    The Lord uses His Word by the power of His Spirit to bring His children to Himself, and all of this, our salvation and our santification, is all done how He has ordained for it to be done and all is done in His perfect timing in His wonderful Story. To Him be the Glory!

    ~Della

  14. davids says:

    As some have pointed out, Aristotle and McKee are talking about fiction, whereas the bible is primarily a book of history. History is not about plot and character development, but rather about things that happened.

    In this history the main character is God: how he directly intervened in human affairs and how people reacted to that. In this way you could say it is an autobiography, but that of one holy, wise, perfect, and immutable. That goes beyond our earthly attempts to define or characterize it.

    “Does he give us men and women who are simple or complex? Are they believable under pressure?”
    Yes, some are simple and some are complex. Some acted under pressure, but others were merely faithful. Ananias and Sapphira are not very complex, but merely under pressure.

    What is amazing is a work that developed over more than a thousand years by many writers, which maintains a consistent message. And that it has since spoken powerfully to people for two thousand years since. There is no human work that approaches that, because there cannot be.

  15. davids says:

    Mart, it would be really great if the tech guys could extend the cookie expiration from a couple of days to much longer (like years).

    There is no reason why people should need to be logged out after any period of time and it’s probably the cause of many problems.

    David

  16. poohpity says:

    I know I will never be like God and if I attempt that I am doomed to failure. I think that is what has happen to people of today they try and be god’s in their own right. When I get to heaven and see the Glory of God any crown I will receive will be placed at the feet of Jesus because I know that it was God working through me. All Glory will be to God and that I will never be able to share in because I know the source and it certainly isn’t anything I am able to accomplish.

    I personally like these topics as well as many topics we discuss this one particularly puts everything in perspective which I think at times gets lost in all the world affairs and distractions. I am thankful that I am even allowed to participate in “Mart’s” blog it is not my blog and if I do not like the topics then no one is forced to participate. Half the time people come in with their own agenda and go off topic which is also a problem with the bible. I know I may get blasted for this but today I really do not care.

  17. saled says:

    “How does the author of the Bible tell the story about the people he wants us to know about?” Peter is a well developed, complex character, as is David. The Bible lets us see their failures as well as their extraordinary faith. God seems to go to great lengths to show us that faith is what counts, not an unblemished life. I find great hope and comfort in this.

    But, “does the way the Bible ends leave us with the conclusion that all that matters is whether we choose to put our faith in the Savior . . ” Faith is of utmost importance to God, but I think here might be an answer to a question that I’ve asked on this blog a few times: “If Jesus did the work of redemption for us almost 2000 years ago, why are we stuck in time with all of its troubles, or as McKee might call it, ‘pressure?”

    Mart goes on to ask, “Or has the answer that ‘God no longer sees us; he sees his son’ been used to miss the richness of what is really happening?” The reason that we are here with all our troubles and pressures may be that God is making us more complex characters.
    Maybe God planned all the trouble and pressure, (even that we seem to have brought upon ourselves) to make us the people he desires.

  18. saled says:

    One of my favorite characters from juvenile literature is Johnny Tremain. For those of you familiar with the story, who would Johnny have been if not for his injured hand? The injury, by the way, was the result of Johnny’s choice to go against the silversmith that he was apprenticed to by working on Sunday!) I think Johnny is a good (if fictional) example of what God may choose to do in our lives.

  19. BruceC says:

    I too; like some of the other posters, have difficulty comparing the Bible to bokks of human origin and writing. They are not even on the same plane. I personally don’t think God was concerned about plots, subplots, or the developement of a character and how it relates to “story line”. It’s just the Truth, the whole Truth, and nothing but the Truth. Even history as recorded by human authors is many times flawed.
    The seeking of knowledge in God’s Word is a wonderful thing. Not to bypass primary doctrine of course; but there is so much in the Word that we can learn and use to point to just how awesome our God is. Just got done watching Chuck Missler’s first installment on the Book of Daniel and it just blows me away how much comes to light by those that really delve into the Word of God.

    BruceC
    Soli Deo Gloria!

  20. marma says:

    I had an English professor once who said that really, any book has only one interpretation. He was not a Christian. I thought his comment interesting. I think he meant that if we take a literal, contextual view, and the author handles language very well, then it is much harder to come up with a lot of variation in meaning.

    I’m not crazy about this blog subject either, even though I majored in English in college. I feel a bit like Bob in Cornwall about it.

    However, I am continually amazed how people–Christians and Non-Christians–will read almost any book in context, take the plain meaning, but will not give the Bible the same respect as a book, even.

    The Word must be spiritually understood, but I think our understanding grows as we grow spiritually. Even then, we see through a glass, darkly.

    Looking forward to that face to face meeting. Even so, come Lord. Amen.

  21. foreverblessed says:

    Here is an interesting scripture to what Mart asked:
    Ecclesiastis 7:29
    God has made us plain and simple (upright), but men have gone in search for many schemes.

    I too, thought, this topic is too much thinking for me, but after reading all your comments, it was beneficial for me (what a nice word).

    Thanks Florida7son, open the door of our hearts to God!
    Sometimes I think this is so:
    The story is very simple:
    God wants to be our Father, He wants us to be His children, and He even shows how much He loves us, by giving the Life of His Son the redeem us out of the world of darkness.

    ANd all the stories of the men and women teach us how men have made things complicated by not going trusting GOd, but goint into many schemes, (or in other words, make things complicated.)

    And as children read the bible stories of people they can head and learn from them. As as child my dad read all these stories after dinner, and I listened to them, and they were in my heart. So it prevented me to go into many schemes. The problem was though that I became too legalistic, I had to have the love of Christ in my heart,
    that softens me, and makes me mellow in Gods hand, to stay close to Him and develop a heart for all those who have gone astray to pick them up and comfort them.
    You could say: the love of God for us is the big theme,
    and so big was His love that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him has everlasting life; John 3:16

    SO the plot is simple, He wants to be our Father and wants us to be as simple children in His hands
    but we want to know many things that God has not revealed, we want to explain all about heaven and earth and future and etc. and we do not leave it alone in His Hands, trusting Him, it will be allright after all.
    Eccl 7:14.

  22. foreverblessed says:

    God has made us plain and simple but we have made ourselves very complicated.
    This is another translation of Eccl 7:29, a friend of mine send a sms a few years ago, and it came back to my mind this morning when considering Mart\s question.

    Mart also asked: under pressure it show who we are.

    On this site I had read the devotional of Oswald Chambers, one story I found very stricking:
    Of Peter who denied Jesus 3 times, he did that under pressure.
    Under pressure Peter failed.
    But what was the end of the story?
    A total failure?
    Peter now had seen how hopeless he was himself. How he could not rely on himself.
    Jesus loved him even more because he had failed, because Jesus knows that He can only use people who know that they themselves are uncapable of performing well.
    Jesus needs sinners who have come to their end, to go out and help save other sinners.

    But Oswals goes on in this story
    Jesus asked Peter 3 times, do you love me?
    And the first time Jesus asked Peter, Peter just said: Yes, I do. THe second time, he again said Yes. Why did Jesus have to ask a third time? The penetrating question of Jesus was cutting as a sword in Peter’s heart, and what did he come to:
    To realise how much he loved Jesus, how deep his love was.
    This I find such a comfortable story, even the sharpest questionair of Jesus shows a great pearl inside. A beautiful thing arises in Peter’s heart: he saw how great his love for his Saviour was.

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